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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2004, 03:22:54 PM »

Censorship of political speech is banned under a certain amendment
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2004, 03:25:34 PM »

Censorship of political speech is banned under a certain amendment

The first amendment does not give companies a right to do whatever they want with the public airwaves.
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2004, 03:29:09 PM »

The airwaves are regulated as interstate trade. They're public only in that sense.

Freedom of speech includes all mediums. The FCC's power is derived from Congress.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2004, 03:31:53 PM »

The airwaves are regulated as interstate trade. They're public only in that sense.


I believe the airwaves are owned publicly and only licensed to corporations.
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2004, 03:38:24 PM »

You can't have 100,000 people trying to broadcast to the same channel. So it's a regulated "trade."

The Congress's power to regulate interstate free trade shouldn't be seen as the power to censor.
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2004, 03:54:29 PM »

You can't have 100,000 people trying to broadcast to the same channel. So it's a regulated "trade."

The Congress's power to regulate interstate free trade shouldn't be seen as the power to censor.

Hah, then why can't I see porn on TV?
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2004, 04:12:36 PM »

You can't have 100,000 people trying to broadcast to the same channel. So it's a regulated "trade."

The Congress's power to regulate interstate free trade shouldn't be seen as the power to censor.

Hah, then why can't I see porn on TV?


The public airwaves are effectively leased to the broadcasters and the FCC has had a longstanding record of not censoring political speech.  In 1976, for example, Barry Commoner, the Consumer Party candidate, ran television ads with the word "bull****" in it. 

It was felt that the government should not be censoring political speech, even if this was in questionable taste.

In this case, this is a news show about a subject raised publically.  I am not claiming that it isn't biased, but it still is a "documentary."

I find it interesting that the "liberals" on this sight favor censoring a documentary with political overtones.  They like porn, but they don't like information.
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2004, 09:05:28 PM »

Quoted from Sinclair by Time Magazine:

"Clearly, John Kerry has made his Vietnam service the foundation of his presidential run. This is an issue that is certainly topical."

(on why company plans to air on it 62 stations a documentary attacking Kerry's antiwar activities of 30 years ago. Sinclair argues that the documentary is news coverage, which is exempt from federal equal-time rules)


"We do not believe such political statements should be disguised as news content."

(on why it refused to air a special edition of ABC's Nightline that consisted of reading the names and showing pictures of each of the 523 US soldiers who had died in Iraq at the time)
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2004, 09:28:55 PM »

Quoted from Sinclair by Time Magazine:

"Clearly, John Kerry has made his Vietnam service the foundation of his presidential run. This is an issue that is certainly topical."




"We do not believe such political statements should be disguised as news content."


And?
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2004, 09:44:31 PM »

Quoted from Sinclair by Time Magazine:

"Clearly, John Kerry has made his Vietnam service the foundation of his presidential run. This is an issue that is certainly topical."




"We do not believe such political statements should be disguised as news content."


And?

You don't have a problem with that extreme bias?
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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2004, 10:06:01 PM »



You don't have a problem with that extreme bias?

I wouldn't call it extreme bias, especially since Kerry was offered a chance to appear (and Bush wasn't).  The Sinclair Group even has Kerry's DC headquarter's number on their website and encourges people to call and ask him to appear.

I certainly would question the news value of reading the names on Nightline, as a number of people did at the time.  Are you claiming that Nightline is bias?  If so, and if this documentary is bais in the opposite direction, perhaps Nightline should run this as a segment, just to balance this out? 

I would certainly argue that the presonal history that a presidential candidate has brought out in his acceptance speech is fair game for a documentary; I'm sure you will agree with that point. 

Now, whether or not this documentary is accurate, I can't tell.  I have not seen it, don't find it really relevant to how Kerry would perform as president, and wouldn't plan to watch it if it was availible in my area.  I would say that it is at least as "newsworthy" as the Nightline episode.  I certainly defend the owners right to show it.
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2004, 07:16:59 AM »

I will add that Sinclair is not running the entire documentary.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2004, 12:55:00 PM »

I will add that Sinclair is not running the entire documentary.

Yes!  They caved, the cowards. 
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2004, 01:20:51 PM »

I depend their right to run it, or not.  Just as I dended Nightline's right to read the names.

They are running a news program on it.
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2004, 12:57:17 AM »

I depend their right to run it, or not.  Just as I dended Nightline's right to read the names.

They are running a news program on it.

They are running a news program, but this partisan hack job is not news.

Sinclair Broadcasting are greedy owards who have no spine.  They caved into the pressure because the boycott hit them where they live.  Like most Republicans, they worship the almightly dollar.  That is how we always control the greed mongers.  We use the old dollar collar and lead them around like the obedient dogs they are for us.

We use their capitalist game against them.  It sure worked for Michael Moore; now he has $220,000,000.00 to use to promote his liberal agenda.  Is this a great country or what?

BTW, I would not recommend "depending" on a shady, partisan media company with a declining market value...

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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2004, 07:23:46 AM »

I depend their right to run it, or not.  Just as I dended Nightline's right to read the names.

They are running a news program on it.

They are running a news program, but this partisan hack job is not news.

Sinclair Broadcasting are greedy owards who have no spine.  They caved into the pressure because the boycott hit them where they live.  Like most Republicans, they worship the almightly dollar.  That is how we always control the greed mongers.  We use the old dollar collar and lead them around like the obedient dogs they are for us.

We use their capitalist game against them.  It sure worked for Michael Moore; now he has $220,000,000.00 to use to promote his liberal agenda.  Is this a great country or what?

BTW, I would not recommend "depending" on a shady, partisan media company with a declining market value...

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Typo, I defend there right to run, or not to run a news program, just like I defend Nightline's decision to run the names. 

I also defend the market's ability to determine what runs.  There is nothing wrong with the viewing public saying, "I'm not going to watch the show, if you air it."  I've already said that if it would run in my area, I probably would not watch it and I've raised questions as to if it would be profitable.
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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2004, 11:33:30 PM »

It is extreme bias.  Yes Sinclair asked Kerry if he would appear, but that would be like setting a trap.  These are HARD CORE right wing nuts that own & control the station.  It would be something along the lines of if Air America was a televison network aired "Farenheit 911" and asked Bush to respond after with questions being asked by Al Franken and Randi Rhodes
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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2004, 12:23:01 AM »

It is extreme bias.  Yes Sinclair asked Kerry if he would appear, but that would be like setting a trap.  These are HARD CORE right wing nuts that own & control the station.  It would be something along the lines of if Air America was a televison network aired "Farenheit 911" and asked Bush to respond after with questions being asked by Al Franken and Randi Rhodes

Hey, I already said, on political grounds, that I would not object if a network would run "Farenheit 911."  It's up to the broadcasters, and Michael Moore.
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