5 region maps

[12th Doctor]

But if he is the incumbent of region X, and is forced into region Y, he has significantly lower chance at election, and also his policies, mindset and opinions might not be the same in his new region at all (ie, if NJ was forced to go into the south region).

Whilst I recognise what you are saying, and think it is better then some of the other proposals, imho, I still see fatal flaws in shifting districts.

I don't see any flaws in it (makes sense since I did propose it)  Indeed, I see what you call flaws as being strengths.  It forces some competitivness, which wouldn't be there much other wise.  This is supposed to be fun.  Fun=Competitive.  And it provides geographic and population balance, which would unite the two major competing ideologies of the forum.

[12th Doctor]

But if he is the incumbent of region X, and is forced into region Y, he has significantly lower chance at election, and also his policies, mindset and opinions might not be the same in his new region at all (ie, if NJ was forced to go into the south region).

Whilst I recognise what you are saying, and think it is better then some of the other proposals, imho, I still see fatal flaws in shifting districts.

I don't see any flaws in it (makes sense since I did propose it)  Indeed, I see what you call flaws as being strengths.  It forces some competitivness, which wouldn't be there much other wise.  This is supposed to be fun.  Fun=Competitive.  And it provides geographic and population balance, which would unite the two major competing ideologies of the forum.

Plus, it sets it up so that even if the minority party is fairly out numbered, they will have a greater chance at gaining seats, because a district dominated by one party or the other is just gonna put two guys from the same party in anyway.

[12th Doctor]

Hughento, the nation is waiting for your response with baited breath.

[Platypus]

What I want to say will not help with my application for GM, and as I am supposed to be running this thread independently, I probably ought not to offer any more opinions

I really should be a politician, you know

[12th Doctor]

What I want to say will not help with my application for GM, and as I am supposed to be running this thread independently, I probably ought not to offer any more opinions

I really should be a politician, you know

Still, I would like to know what you think.  I'm not normally pushy, but I think that this is a damn good idea.

[Platypus]

I like the first part of your proposal, with the fixed regions

[dunn]

Census was too on our draft

[minionofmidas]

I have calculated totals of actual EVs, Atlas residents over 18 posts and registered voters for seven maps.
I've left out Lewis-B, which I consider superseded by Lewis-C, Hugh-B because he has said he liked his other maps better, Gustaf-A because it's too much hassle and of_this_nation because it's too many regions.

Hugh-A
96 - 130 - 119 - 84 - 109
32 - 29 - 16 - 7 - 18
16 - 17 - 3 - 3 - 9

Hugh-C
104 - 133 - 132 - 60 - 109
33 - 24 - 17 - 10 - 18
18 - 12 - 4 - 5 - 9

Lewis-A
65 - 56 - 189 - 82 - 146
21 - 14 - 25 - 18 - 24
9 - 10 - 9 - 10 - 10

Lewis-C
65 - 90 - 153 - 86 - 141
21 - 21 - 21 - 20 - 19
9 - 14 - 5 - 11 - 9

Gustaf-B
117 - 153 - 106 - 78 - 104
39 - 18 - 22 - 6 - 17
21 - 5 - 11 - 2 - 9

MiamiU
117 - 107 - 166 - 68 - 80
36 - 22 - 25 - 5 - 14
21 - 12 - 6 - 2 - 7

Harry
104 - 118 - 106 - 106 - 104
33 - 21 - 16 - 15 - 17
18 - 11 - 3 - 7 - 9

Data for posters over 18 are sometime yesterday. I don't remember the time of day. Anyway it's as in my map.
Data for registered voters are not quite like in my map, because I've now included JFK.

I am not willing to even contemplate any map that includes a region with three or less registered voters. There are three positions to be taken up in any region, so four voters everywhere is a bare minimum if forum democracy is going to work at all (I didn't vote for Governors, btw).
That leaves only three maps - mine and Hughento's last one.
My personal vote is
1 Lewis-C
2 Lewis-A
3 Hughento-C

[dunn]

1 Lewis-C
2 Hughento-C
3 Lewis-A

[7,052,770]

1. Harry-A
2. Miamiu-A
3. Hughento-B
4. Gustaf-B
5. Hughento-A
6. Lewis-B
7. Lewis-A
8. Hughento-C
9. Lewis-C
10. Gustaf-A

[Siege40]

I've recently crossed the 18 mark yesterday, I've been postin up a frenzy, will I be counted in the EV system?

Siege40

[Emsworth]

I've recently crossed the 18 mark yesterday, I've been postin up a frenzy, will I be counted in the EV system?

Yes, you should be counted.

As far as your party is concerned, might I make a suggestion to you to join the Progressive Party?

[Siege40]

How would I go about doing that? Despite the fact I may be considered... oh a little radical. I'd also like to run for a position if it all possible. Being that I'm a foreigner I could run in any state for the Progressives, unless the constitution is finally decided for the international seat.

Siege40

[Gustaf]

Gustaf-A because it's too much hassle (...)

That leaves only three maps - mine and Hughento's last one.
My personal vote is
1 Lewis-C
2 Lewis-A
3 Hughento-C

What are you talking about? What's wrong with my map? And, also, it's not 'Gustaf-A', it's GAFFERM1...

[ilikeverin]

How would I go about doing that? Despite the fact I may be considered... oh a little radical. I'd also like to run for a position if it all possible. Being that I'm a foreigner I could run in any state for the Progressives, unless the constitution is finally decided for the international seat.

Siege40

I belive the general consensus is that you have to run using your avatar's state.

[7,052,770]

You could change your state though
Can you be a southeastern state?  We really need some of those.

[Siege40]

A Radical Progressive running in the deep south? SURE! Though in reality that is clinically insane I think it could slide. I'll figure out which state I like and go for it. Any states you like in particular? I'll veto Florida, Oklahoma Texas, and Arkansas, don't ask me why I just don't want to run there. I like the prospects of Louisiana, the Carolinas, Virginia, and Kentucky. Any of those in particular you need filled?

Siege40

[Emsworth]

I like the prospects of Louisiana, the Carolinas, Virginia, and Kentucky.

Try Louisiana or South Carolina. Under some proposals, Virginia, Kentucky and North Carolina, or some of them, would be made part of a different region containing Michigan, which would make the move pointless.

[Nation]

I think what we need to do now is get 4-5 maps that most people seemed to like, post them all on one thread, and vote. Have the vote last 3-4 days so everyone gets a chance, and the winner, that WILL be the map that's used.

Gustaf and Hughento both had some good maps if I recall.

[7,052,770]

Thanks Siege!
My proposal now has 4 registered members in the SE, so it can have merit again!

Also, Siege will probably be able to get an office.
His move to SC worked out well for both of us.

[Siege40]

This better not lead to scandal Harry. I don't want allegations of co-operating with the Democrats ruining my Progressive record. Lol.

Siege40

[7,052,770]

Naw, man. . . . Dems and Progressives can work togther.
This incredible display of bipartianship will make both of our approval rates shoot into three digits

[Emsworth]

We are all in too much of a hurry! Originally, it was proposed that the votes would begin on March 15. Here is my proposal for how to conduct the voting:

1. All maps involving with less than X members (X to be determined now) are not permitted to be included.
2. Only maps with five regions may be included.
3. Each map is given a title, including a letter and the name of the proposer.
4. On the first post of a NEW thread, all of the maps are displayed, together with their respective titles.
5. Voters have 72 hours thereafter to vote.
6. To cast a ballot, a voter must rank the maps in order. A vote is valid only if at least three maps are ranked.
7. A map with an absolute majority of first-preference votes wins. If no such map has an absolute majority, then the map with the fewest first-preference votes is eliminated, and its votes are redistributed based on the second preference. Further eliminations are done until one map receives an absolute majority. (This is the Australian preferential voting system.)
8. In order to allow members to make informed proposals, the Secretary of Forum Affairs conducts a Census which informs everyone as to how many inhabitants with 18 posts or more, and registered voters belong to each state.

I propose that the minimum number of voters necessary for a region be declared to be five.

[7,052,770]

We are all in too much of a hurry! Originally, it was proposed that the votes would begin on March 15. Here is my proposal for how to conduct the voting:

1. All maps involving with less than X members (X to be determined now) are not permitted to be included.
2. Only maps with five regions may be included.
3. Each map is given a title, including a letter and the name of the proposer.
4. On the first post of a NEW thread, all of the maps are displayed, together with its title.
5. Voters have 72 hours thereafter to vote.
6. To cast a ballot, a voter must rank the maps in order. A vote is valid only if at least three maps are ranked.
7. A map with an absolute majority of first-preference votes wins. If no such map has an absolute majority, then the map with the fewest first-preference votes is eliminated, and its votes are redistributed based on the second preference. Further eliminations are done until one map receives an absolute majority. (This is the Australian preferential voting system.)
8. In order to allow members to make informed proposals, the Secretary of Forum Affairs conducts a Census which informs everyone as to how many inhabitants with 18 posts or more, and registered voters belong to each state.

I propose that the minimum number of voters necessary for a region be declared to be five.

that's great.

My Map is titled ""The Vice President's Plan H," created by Vice President Harry"

[12th Doctor]

This better not lead to scandal Harry. I don't want allegations of co-operating with the Democrats ruining my Progressive record. Lol.

Siege40

Did you register to vote yet?  You have to register.  Just go to the Register thread and say 'I register'.