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Bo
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« on: December 22, 2009, 02:21:35 AM »

Grant wins
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Bo
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 01:28:42 PM »


Why would Andrew Johnson do so well against Grant? He was extremely unpopular in 1868 (and he was not removed from office by one vote), and running against a popular war hero would almost certainly cause Johnson to lose in a landslide, especially since many blacks throguhout the South were given the right to vote and American troops were still in the South to make sure that this right was enforced.
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Bo
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 06:59:32 PM »

I thought of Johnson being very much like Polk both Southern populist that served during the times of war.

Coming out of the Civil War the Union was very much divided and I thought of in terms of disenfranchisement of blacks that southern states other than Florida would have prevented black males from voting.



Also, why would Johnson win New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, and Iowa. Those states hated him very much. Horatio Seymour only won New York and New Jersey in 1868 because he was Governor of New York, and besides, Seymour was nowhere near as racist and controversial as Johnson was.
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Bo
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E: -5.23, S: -2.52

« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 07:21:18 PM »

Johnson would get destroyed just about everywhere


This map seems about right, except I would make Florida barker blue and give Kentucky to Grant.
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Bo
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2009, 07:24:38 PM »

I thought of Johnson being very much like Polk both Southern populist that served during the times of war.

Coming out of the Civil War the Union was very much divided and I thought of in terms of disenfranchisement of blacks that southern states other than Florida would have prevented black males from voting.



Also, why would Johnson win New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, and Iowa. Those states hated him very much. Horatio Seymour only won New York and New Jersey in 1868 because he was Governor of New York, and besides, Seymour was nowhere near as racist and controversial as Johnson was.

Here is the clear answer - WEB Dubios has never had any logic when creating election what-if maps.

If that's genuinely the case, then he should stop making them.
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