The religious groups who supported retaining the Indian gay sex laws in court...

[afleitch]

...were Muslim, Hindu

No. Of course they were Christian.

https://thewire.in/lgbtqia/at-supreme-court-all-three-religious-groups-backing-section-377-are-christian

[Antonio the Sixth]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

[Mopsus]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

That’s true, all nations influenced by Persia have a culture of male pedophilia.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

That’s true, all nations influenced by Persia have a culture of male pedophilia.

what

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This is deeply misleading. See here, here, here, and here.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

Raj-era law is relevant in India today because the modern state is the successor state to the Raj and inherited its legal system but, no, the widely-repeated claim that homosexuality was only outlawed in India in 1866 is not true, even if that was when it was formally outlawed in the present legal system. It had actually had been illegal in most of India since the Delhi Sultanate, it's just that these prohibitions were not enforced for social elites and at certain times, though not all the time, were openly flouted in such circles (as was often the way in old Muslim-ruled states, of course). The tendency to confuse the behaviour of elites (and what they were and were not permitted to do) with the wider situation bedevils Indian social history on quite a few issues and always has. There's no evidence of there ever being a 'liberal' attitude towards homosexuality amongst the general population in India (not that there's anything uniquely Indian about that) - as much as I dislike the term I guess one could argue that the claims to the contrary (which mostly originated in the works of admiring Westerners, who saw what they wanted to see) are a deeply ironic case of orientalism.

[Mopsus]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

That’s true, all nations influenced by Persia have a culture of male pedophilia.

what

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawal

Couldn't find any obvious clues on pederasty in India. Good on them.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

Raj-era law is relevant in India today because the modern state is the successor state to the Raj and inherited its legal system but, no, the widely-repeated claim that homosexuality was only outlawed in India in 1866 is not true, even if that was when it was formally outlawed in the present legal system. It had actually had been illegal in most of India since the Delhi Sultanate, it's just that these prohibitions were not enforced for social elites and at certain times, though not all the time, were openly flouted in such circles (as was often the way in old Muslim-ruled states, of course). The tendency to confuse the behaviour of elites (and what they were and were not permitted to do) with the wider situation bedevils Indian social history on quite a few issues and always has. There's no evidence of there ever being a 'liberal' attitude towards homosexuality amongst the general population in India (not that there's anything uniquely Indian about that) - as much as I dislike the term I guess one could argue that the claims to the contrary (which mostly originated in the works of admiring Westerners, who saw what they wanted to see) are a deeply ironic case of orientalism.

Alright, fair enough.

[PSOL]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

That’s true, all nations influenced by Persia have a culture of male pedophilia.

what

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawal

Couldn't find any obvious clues on pederasty in India. Good on them.

You dumdum Egypt really hasn’t been influenced by Persian tradition since the times of Cyrus. Plus it seems like you should be putting blame on bored wealthy warlords instead of a specific culture.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

But Christians have never burned widows alive at their husband's funeral.

[Mopsus]

Not surprising. That law was a legacy of British colonial rule to begin with. Traditional Hindu culture has generally been fairly tolerant of homosexuality IIRC.

That’s true, all nations influenced by Persia have a culture of male pedophilia.

what

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawal

Couldn't find any obvious clues on pederasty in India. Good on them.

You dumdum Egypt really hasn’t been influenced by Persian tradition since the times of Cyrus. Plus it seems like you should be putting blame on bored wealthy warlords instead of a specific culture.

From the perspective of a modern liberal, the real culprit is Islam’s traditional circumscription of women.

[TDAS04]

...were Muslim, Hindu

No. Of course they were Christian.

https://thewire.in/lgbtqia/at-supreme-court-all-three-religious-groups-backing-section-377-are-christian

You’re wrong.  The Muslim reaction has been predictably hostile.

The notion that you seem to push—that Christianity is more homophobic than other regions, including Islam—is ridiculous.  Take a look at the policies toward homosexuality in Islamic countries, and compare them to elsewhere.  Only Christian Africa even comes to to the Islamic world when it comes to homophobic persecution.  Historically Christian countries outside Africa are far better.

As for Hinduism, its sacred texts do not condemn homosexuality, like Abrahamic texts do, so a case could be made that Hinduism is more tolerant.  Nonetheless, BJP members and other right-wing Hindus have complained about the ruling.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Hinduism's holy texts don't condemn homosexuality? Whatever. It has FAR worse stuff, like burning widows and the caste system.

[TDAS04]

Hinduism's holy texts don't condemn homosexuality? Whatever. It has FAR worse stuff, like burning widows and the caste system.

I didn't say they don't have a lot of bad stuff.