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« Reply #1100 on: November 25, 2012, 10:56:17 AM »

First projection:



So, gains for the far-left and the far-right and new parties. The established parties are losing.
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« Reply #1101 on: November 25, 2012, 10:57:50 AM »

Why should anyone really care about Graz local elections? Smiley

Because it could get a Communist mayor, the first Communist mayor in any of the 9 state capitals and a Communist mayor in the 2nd biggest city in Austria ... Wink

Really communist....or communist in party name only? (Pardon my ignorance)

It's more of a localist hard-left thing, with a populist tone (Graz city politicians get about 4000€ a month, and the Communists donate about 2000€ of that to poor people). They also focus a lot on affordable housing etc.

I'm near the communist center of Western Germany, actually,.....so I'm familiar with the concept Smiley

That village is only about 10 km away from me.

http://www.reinheim.de/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2FVG_OBW_Ueberau.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgcolor%3D%22black%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20|%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=a500057917532d120f356d56e33755c1
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« Reply #1102 on: November 25, 2012, 10:59:28 AM »

Why should anyone really care about Graz local elections? Smiley

Because it could get a Communist mayor, the first Communist mayor in any of the 9 state capitals and a Communist mayor in the 2nd biggest city in Austria ... Wink

Really communist....or communist in party name only? (Pardon my ignorance)

It's more of a localist hard-left thing, with a populist tone (Graz city politicians get about 4000€ a month, and the Communists donate about 2000€ of that to poor people). They also focus a lot on affordable housing etc.

I'm near the communist center of Western Germany, actually,.....so I'm familiar with the concept Smiley

That village is only about 10 km away from me.

http://www.reinheim.de/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2FVG_OBW_Ueberau.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgcolor%3D%22black%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20|%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=a500057917532d120f356d56e33755c1

Maybe Austria also had a few KPÖ mayors ... in the 1950s. I'm not sure about that.

But Graz would be big. Almost 300.000 people live there.
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« Reply #1103 on: November 25, 2012, 11:00:21 AM »

Hahaha, this election even has a live-stream:

http://www.kleinezeitung.at/portal/fragments/steiermark/livevideo/index_ustream.jsp
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« Reply #1104 on: November 25, 2012, 11:32:41 AM »

Official results (223 of 270 precincts counted):

32.8%  [-5.6] ÖVP (17 seats)
20.4% [+9.2] KPÖ (10 seats)
15.8%  [-3.9] SPÖ (8 seats)
14.5% [+3.7] FPÖ (7 seats)
11.3%  [-3.3] Greens (5 seats)
  2.7% [+2.6] Pirates (1 seat)
  1.4%  [-3.0] BZÖ
  0.5% [+0.5] CPÖ
  0.6% Others

24 seats for KPÖ/SPÖ/Greens/Pirates to 24 seats for ÖVP/FPÖ.

But the most likely scenario is ÖVP-SPÖ with 25-23 seats.
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« Reply #1105 on: November 25, 2012, 11:43:04 AM »

The Communists currently lead in the district Graz-Gries, with 1 precinct remaining.
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« Reply #1106 on: November 25, 2012, 12:53:16 PM »

Official results (all 270 precincts counted):

33.5%  [-4.9] ÖVP (17 seats)
20.1% [+8.9] KPÖ (10 seats)
15.3%  [-4.4] SPÖ (7 seats)
13.9% [+3.1] FPÖ (7 seats)
12.0%  [-2.6] Greens (6 seats)
  2.7% [+2.7] Pirates (1 seat)
  1.4%  [-3.0] BZÖ
  0.5% [+0.5] CPÖ
  0.6% Others

Turnout: 53% (-5%)
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« Reply #1107 on: November 25, 2012, 12:56:34 PM »

Turnout should rise to about 56% when the postal votes are counted tomorrow, which would still be down 2% compared with 2008 and the lowest level ever.
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« Reply #1108 on: November 25, 2012, 01:00:56 PM »

So I guess that means Graz is not getting their communist mayor?
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« Reply #1109 on: November 25, 2012, 01:03:02 PM »

So I guess that means Graz is getting their communist mayor?

No:

10+8+5 =23 (+1) = 24

ÖVP/FPÖ: 17+7 = 24

And no:

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« Reply #1110 on: November 25, 2012, 01:11:54 PM »

That's comforting Smiley
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« Reply #1111 on: November 25, 2012, 03:10:01 PM »


So, what now?

All possible coalitions seems to add to 24 (FPÖVP, SPÖVP, Greens/KPÖ/SPÖ).
Does Green/SPÖ/ÖVP could happen?
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« Reply #1112 on: November 26, 2012, 01:14:53 AM »


So, what now?

All possible coalitions seems to add to 24 (FPÖVP, SPÖVP, Greens/KPÖ/SPÖ).
Does Green/SPÖ/ÖVP could happen?

Well, today the remaining postal votes will be counted, so this adds another 6000 ballots.

But probably the seats will remain like they are right now.

Which means ÖVP+SPÖ plus the 1 Pirate or ÖVP+SPÖ+Greens.

The KPÖ has said it won't be in a coalition with the ÖVP.

Anyway, the results:



And by district:

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« Reply #1113 on: November 26, 2012, 01:29:22 AM »

Data from the SORA Exit Poll:

Gender:

Men: 32% ÖVP, 23% KPÖ, 17% FPÖ, 13% SPÖ, 7% Greens, 2% BZÖ, 5% Others
Women: 35% ÖVP, 19% SPÖ, 17% KPÖ, 16% Greens, 11% FPÖ, 1% BZÖ, 2% Others

Age:

16-29: 26% Greens, 22% FPÖ, 14% KPÖ, 13% SPÖ, 12% ÖVP, 3% BZÖ, 9% Others
30-59: 29% ÖVP, 26% KPÖ, 16% SPÖ, 13% FPÖ, 12% Greens, 1% BZÖ, 3% Others
60+: 55% ÖVP, 17% SPÖ, 13% KPÖ, 11% FPÖ, 2% Greens, 1% BZÖ, 1% Others

http://images.derstandard.at/2012/11/25/wahltagsbefragung.pdf
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« Reply #1114 on: November 26, 2012, 04:29:23 AM »

Well that's a shame, since Cordoba in España lost its Communist mayor last year, that would have probably be the largest European city with a Communist mayor !

Anyway that's pretty comforting to see that voters are still capable sometimes of switching away of a centre-left party that compromises too much with the right to go for a more left-wing party not willing to do so. SPÖ must ask themselves questions now...

Oh and another thing : those councils with even numbers of seats are just ridiculous. You just don't do that.
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« Reply #1115 on: November 26, 2012, 04:51:16 AM »

Well that's a shame, since Cordoba in España lost its Communist mayor last year, that would have probably be the largest European city with a Communist mayor !

What it is now?
Some Paris suburb?
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« Reply #1116 on: November 26, 2012, 05:31:38 AM »

Well, until Dec 2011 you still also had Nicosia in Cyprus, but it turned conservative also. Now I only find Saint-Denis in Paris' suburb which has 105,000 inhabitants.

You could argue that Pisapia, Milan's mayor in Italia, is the largest city's communist mayor, but I think he's now much more of a social-democrat.

In Germany, Die Linke's got Schwerin with 95,000. Maybe fellow Atlas members could help us in that quest ? Cheesy
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« Reply #1117 on: November 26, 2012, 06:06:09 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2012, 06:08:11 AM by Leftbehind »

It's a shame it didn't amount to a mayor, but still good news. Also, the Pirates: seriously, just f**k off.
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« Reply #1118 on: November 26, 2012, 07:09:03 AM »

Well that's a shame, since Cordoba in España lost its Communist mayor last year, that would have probably be the largest European city with a Communist mayor !

Anyway that's pretty comforting to see that voters are still capable sometimes of switching away of a centre-left party that compromises too much with the right to go for a more left-wing party not willing to do so. SPÖ must ask themselves questions now...

Oh and another thing : those councils with even numbers of seats are just ridiculous. You just don't do that.

Since the lost of Cordoba, I think that the most important city with an IU mayor is Rivas-Vaciamadrid (pop. around 73000), in the Spain's capital periphery. That town is called the Gaul village of the left in Madrid and its mayor, José Masa, has developed some advanced social and environmental policies. In Catalonia ICV retains El Prat de Llobregat (pop. 63500), although many IU militants regard the ecosocialist party as a vile bunch of socialdemocratic revisionists. I think that in Andalusia IU doesn't control any municipality above 50000, but I might be wrong.
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« Reply #1119 on: November 26, 2012, 02:11:17 PM »

Final results with all votes counted (incl. all the postal votes from today):

33.74%  [-4.63] - 17 seats - ÖVP
19.86% [+8.68] - 10 seats - KPÖ
15.31%  [-4.43] -   7 seats - SPÖ
13.75% [+2.90] -   7 seats - FPÖ
12.14%  [-2.42] -   6 seats - Greens
  2.70% [+2.70] -   1 seat   - Pirates
  1.34%  [-2.97] -   0 seats - BZÖ
  1.16%                               - Others

Coalition remains unknown. Will probably take a few days/weeks for them to figure it out.
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« Reply #1120 on: November 26, 2012, 02:17:55 PM »

Forgot something:

The final turnout (incl. all postal votes) in Stalingraz/Leningraz was 55.5%, which is down by 2.4% compared with 2008 - and a new low.
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« Reply #1121 on: November 27, 2012, 01:34:45 AM »

I'll probably lock this thread and the draft thread on Saturday (Dec. 1) and create a uniform new thread about the "2013 Austrian parliamentary election, state elections and draft referendum".
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« Reply #1122 on: November 28, 2012, 02:15:10 PM »

I'll probably lock this thread and the draft thread on Saturday (Dec. 1) and create a uniform new thread about the "2013 Austrian parliamentary election, state elections and draft referendum".

I'll create the new thread right now and lock the 2 current ones ...

Goodbye "2012 Austrian Election Interlude: The rise of Frank Stronach and more ..."-thread ... Wink
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