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Question: Who would you vote for in the Austrian Presidential Election ?
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« Reply #650 on: September 09, 2011, 11:43:54 AM »

Kind of depends what counts as wealth....as to whether or not I would support such a measure.

Not opposed on principle, but I usually find such proposals to be pretty stupid in practice.

Well, according to SPÖ plans only capital and real estate. Personal belongings like jewelry should not be among it.

After all, Austria is a save haven for millionaires. Austria is among the countries in the world with the most millionaires per capita, slightly behind Switzerland and oil producing gulf countries. The number of millionaires here increased by about 10% last year as did their wealth. It also has one of the lowest rates of taxes imposed on the wealthy in all OECD countries. Only 0.5% of annual tax revenues are coming from wealth taxes in Austria, compared with 4.2% in the UK. On the other hand, the middle-class worker in Austria is taxed to death. Austria has one of the highest middle-class tax revenues in the world.

Or better said:

The 74.000 millionaires in Austria (less than 1% of the population) currently own 230 Bio. €, or 77% of the GDP.

The 10 richest Austrians even have 65 Bio. € ...

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« Reply #651 on: September 09, 2011, 11:53:37 AM »

Said the Boston Consulting Group:

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« Reply #652 on: September 09, 2011, 11:59:46 AM »

I mean which millionaire, except for the real greedy ones, would make a big deal of paying a 0.3-0.7% wealth tax ?

If I had a couple millions I would be more than happy to pay this small tax, if it would help bring my country's debt down.

I mean, what is 0.3-0.7% annually, when you invest it anyway and if you are clever, you get 5-10% annually in dividends on your capital ?
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« Reply #653 on: September 09, 2011, 01:06:24 PM »

Writes the "Wiener Zeitung":

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« Reply #654 on: September 10, 2011, 01:30:57 AM »

I would be surprised if the upcoming polls are not changing ...

And so it is. Today, a new Profil poll by Karmasin Motivforschung came out (conducted before the Vienna meltdown, but after the corruption revelations of the former right-wing government):

30% (+1) SPÖ
24% (+6) FPÖ
22%  (-4) ÖVP
15% (+5) Greens
  4%  (-7) BZÖ
  5%  (-1) Others

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20110910_OTS0003/profil-umfrage-spoe-30-fpoe-24-oevp-22-gruene-15

The SPÖ should probably continue with the populist class warfare and make it a campaign issue in 2013.

Because the Profil poll also shows 63% support a wealth tax, with just 15% opposed.

It also shows 49% now support abolishing the draft, while 40% want to keep it.

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20110910_OTS0004/profil-oesterreicher-befuerworten-hoehere-besteuerung-von-vermoegen

68% of Austrians also oppose the EU-mandated regulation to phase out normal lightbulbs and replace them with energy-saving lightbulbs. Only 25% support the energy-saving lightbulbs.

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20110910_OTS0008/profil-mehrheit-gegen-gluehbirnen-verbot
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« Reply #655 on: September 10, 2011, 01:53:27 AM »

Are you certain the current Austrian government will really last until 2013?
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« Reply #656 on: September 10, 2011, 02:07:52 AM »

Are you certain the current Austrian government will really last until 2013?

Well, I think so. Both SPÖ and ÖVP leaders have said that there will be no early elections.

I don't think the SPÖ will call early elections, because Austrians like to punish the party that calls them.

And the ÖVP won't call them either, because they are weak right now and would be punished even further, they could drop to 20% or below (which would be devastating for a party which got 42% a decade ago).

Considering these facts, the SPÖ seems to be in the driver's seat right now and the ÖVP won't be able to continue with their blocking all the time. There are now dissenting voices within the ÖVP, such as the Salzburg ÖVP-leader Haslauer, who calls for a draft referendum. Maybe the ÖVP will buckle and give in to the draft referendum, if they get the support from the SPÖ on the other hand to impose the constitutional balanced budget amendment and 60% debt limit they want.
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« Reply #657 on: September 10, 2011, 02:13:01 AM »

It's a pity there's no proper left and right in Austria (as in CDU/FDP vs. SPD/Greens). As it stands, the ÖVP, even without them being in a free fall due to scandals, doesn't really have a path to government outside of grand coalitions. They've been in a situation I wouldn't want to be in for quite a while....whether they get 30% or 20%.
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« Reply #658 on: September 13, 2011, 01:36:22 AM »

More and more Nazis within the FPÖ:

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« Reply #659 on: September 14, 2011, 12:24:28 PM »

Austrians are getting dumber when it comes to political knowledge, a new IMAS poll shows:



15% do not know the name of the Austrian Chancellor
21% do not know the name of the Austrian President
39% do not know the party of their state's governor
42% do not know the parties in the Austrian parliament
47% do not know typical criterias of democracy
48% do not know if Austria is a member of the UN
52% do not know the difference between capitalism and socialism
52% do not know the leaders of the political parties in Austria
58% do not know how long the occupation of Austria lasted after World War 2
58% do not know how many countries belong to the EU
58% do not know what Fascism is
60% do not know who Engelbert Dollfuß was
63% do not know the goals/principles of the Austrian parties
64% do not know who leads the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
70% do not know the purpose of the Bundesrat

Rather shocking stuff ...
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« Reply #660 on: September 15, 2011, 08:43:29 AM »

New OGM poll for the newspaper "Heute":

29%  (nc) SPÖ
27% (+9) FPÖ
25%  (-1) ÖVP
13% (+3) Greens
  4%  (-7) BZÖ
  2%  (-4) Others

Direct vote for Chancellor:

25% Werner Faymann (SPÖ)
19% Michael Spindelegger (ÖVP)
17% Heinz-Christian Strache (FPÖ)
  7% Eva Glawischnig (Greens)
  4% Josef Bucher (BZÖ)
28% None of them

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20110915_OTS0191/heute-umfrage-faymann-in-kanzlerfrage-weit-vor-spindelegger
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« Reply #661 on: September 15, 2011, 02:05:37 PM »

OGM also asked the preferred coalitions of Austrians:



Don't know why they asked ÖVP-FPÖ, when the FPÖ is ahead of the ÖVP ...
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« Reply #662 on: September 18, 2011, 01:46:36 AM »

New Gallup poll today for "Österreich" newspaper:



Do you favor or oppose a tax on the wealthy (those having assets of more than 1 Mio. €) ?

77% Favor
23% Oppose

Do you favor or oppose abolishing the draft in Austria ?

53% Favor
47% Oppose

What would you do with Greece ?

46% Send Greece into bankruptcy
42% Let government pass the next bailout package

http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/VP-stuerzt-weiter-ab-Nur-mehr-23/40659177

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There's also new Styria state elections poll out today by OGM for the "Kleine Zeitung" newspaper:



In Styria, 82% support a wealth tax and just 15% are opposed.

http://www.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries/upload/0/2/2/2833938/landtagswahl03.jpg

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There's also a new OGM/Kurier poll out about corruption in Austria:



Which party do you think is most responsible for the growing corruption in Austria ?

16% ÖVP
11% FPÖ
10% BZÖ
  9% SPÖ
  1% Greens
51% All parties
13% Undecided

Is there more corruption now in Austria than before ?

20% Yes, corruption has risen in the past years
69% No, corruption was always there - it was just not discovered as much
11% Undecided

http://kurier.at/nachrichten/4152759.php
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« Reply #663 on: September 22, 2011, 07:20:02 AM »

New OGM poll for the 2013 town council elections in Graz:



http://www.kleinezeitung.at/nachrichten/politik/2836319/grazer-spoe-not.story
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« Reply #664 on: September 22, 2011, 07:25:18 AM »

I should probably mention that there's a ÖVP-Green coalition in Graz and that the city SPÖ had bad leadership problems in the last years and they just changed the party leader, who is a complete unknown.
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« Reply #665 on: September 24, 2011, 05:49:27 AM »

New Upper Austria poll by Spectra:

State elections

44% ÖVP
25% SPÖ
14% FPÖ
12% Greens
  5% Others

Federal elections

30% SPÖ
27% ÖVP
20% FPÖ
11% Greens
  7% BZÖ
  5% Others
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« Reply #666 on: September 27, 2011, 03:00:52 AM »

I should probably mention that there's a ÖVP-Green coalition in Graz and that the city SPÖ had bad leadership problems in the last years and they just changed the party leader, who is a complete unknown.

And now this "unknown" Edmund Müller, who had the job for only 9 months, stepped down:

http://www.krone.at/Nachrichten/Grazer_SPOe-Chef_Mueller_tritt_nach_nur_9_Monaten_ab-Zoff_mit_Voves-Story-297374

And is replaced by another "unknown", Martina Schröck. The Graz-SPÖ is in deep sh*t it seems.
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« Reply #667 on: September 29, 2011, 03:53:43 AM »

Here´s a new IMAS poll:

26-28% SPÖ
24-26% FPÖ
24-26% ÖVP
13-14% Greens
    5-6% BZÖ

Also:



The first, grey column indicates the percentage of Austrians who know this politician.

The second column indicates the percentage of Austrians who think this politician would be good as a boss of an industrial company.

The third column indicates the percentage of Austrians who think this politician would be good as a head of a crisis management group.

The fourth column indicates the percentage of Austrians who think this politician would be a good role model or idol for the youth.

The fifth column indicates the percentage of Austrians who think this politician is very telegenic.

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It's very interesting to see how well FPÖ-leader Strache does here ...

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« Reply #668 on: September 29, 2011, 01:13:36 PM »

New EU poll:



Do you think Austria has benefitted from the Euro or not ?

37% Yes
48% No

Do you think EU agencys should be allowed to have direct influence on political areas that are currently handled by the member states ?

Budget policy: 33% Yes, 58% No
Tax policy: 32% Yes, 60% No
Collective bargaining rounds: 25% Yes, 66% No
Pension policy: 28% Yes, 64% No

Do you think that the "United States of Europe" would be a fitting model for EU future ?

30% Yes
50% No

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And, what Austrians want their government to do most:



89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

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And, in terms of tuition fees for students:

66% of Austrians want tuition fees for university students to be re-introduced
28% not

How much should students pay each semester ?

54% - 300€
34% - 500€
  2% - 700€

http://www.market.at/de/market-aktuell/news/entity.detail/action.view/key.590.html
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« Reply #669 on: September 29, 2011, 03:32:31 PM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.
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« Reply #670 on: September 29, 2011, 04:10:47 PM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.

They're ideas that enjoy near-universal support in most places, I imagine. It's just that anything that would actually reach that goal is usually hated by the public.

Cut spending, yeah, great idea. But don't cut my social security, or my education....or my healthcare....and so on Smiley
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« Reply #671 on: September 30, 2011, 12:59:55 AM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.

They're ideas that enjoy near-universal support in most places, I imagine. It's just that anything that would actually reach that goal is usually hated by the public.

Cut spending, yeah, great idea. But don't cut my social security, or my education....or my healthcare....and so on Smiley

Well, Austria passed a moderate austerity package a year ago - mostly in the social areas, while introducing a bank & stock tax and flight tax.

A few thousand people protested, opinion polls showed that the public first disliked the measures, but eventually thought it is needed to balance the budget.

Because of this, the budget deficit will decline from 4.6% in 2010 to about 2.5% this year and it is most likely balanced by 2015.

Also, Austria has a big potential to cut spending because we have one of the most gracious pension systems in the whole world. Some branches like ÖBB people can apply for pensions starting with age 50 and most people in Austria apply for their pensions at an average age of 55 (women) and 57 (men). If the pension age of 65 would be heavily enforced and also more people would work until that age, like in Sweden or Switzerland. Austria could save about 5 Bio. € per year, but mostly the SPÖVP pensioner lobbyists, who have a lot of say within the parties, are of course blocking this.
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« Reply #672 on: September 30, 2011, 01:04:22 AM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.

I think a good deal of Green and ÖVP voters would be in favor of this. The ÖVP people mostly because they see good business opportunities in a future United States of Europe.
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« Reply #673 on: September 30, 2011, 05:15:02 AM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.

I think a good deal of Green and ÖVP voters would be in favor of this. The ÖVP people mostly because they see good business opportunities in a future United States of Europe.

Yeah but still, 30%? That's just seven points below the number of people who said they liked the Euro...
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« Reply #674 on: October 02, 2011, 01:05:28 AM »

And, what Austrians want their government to do most:

89% Cut spending
87% Tougher rules and more integrity in the political and business sector
84% reduce the debt
83% reduce and punish Social Security abuse
76% constitutional balanced budget and debt amendment

When did Austria turn into the Republican party? Tongue

Also very sursprising 30% of Austrians want a United States of Europe. Didn't think that idea would break 10% popular support.

I think a good deal of Green and ÖVP voters would be in favor of this. The ÖVP people mostly because they see good business opportunities in a future United States of Europe.

Yeah but still, 30%? That's just seven points below the number of people who said they liked the Euro...

It's not directly "like" the Euro, or "not". It asks if they see more assets or drawbacks concerning the Euro. At least 70% of Austrians "like" the Euro, but on the second question, if the country has benefitted from it, they are much more critical. In fact, many people who were used to the Schilling believe that the Euro has led to increasing prices everywhere.
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