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Question: Who would you vote for in the Austrian Presidential Election ?
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Heinz Fischer (Incumbent-SPÖ/IND)
 
#2
Barbara Rosenkranz (FPÖ)
 
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Other candidate (please post)
 
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Total Voters: 71

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Iannis
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« on: June 01, 2011, 02:36:49 AM »

The Falangists won 39% in Spain last time around, yet they're not on the map. The Generalissimo and his sidekick Fraga would be pissed to see all their hard work not recognized.

Sure, and the godless communist/anarchist the 43%, so we need a liberation war! Wake up! we are in 2011!!
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 04:39:55 PM »

The Falangists won 39% in Spain last time around, yet they're not on the map. The Generalissimo and his sidekick Fraga would be pissed to see all their hard work not recognized.

Sure, and the godless communist/anarchist the 43%, so we need a liberation war! Wake up! we are in 2011!!

But the PP never really condemned Falangism.


I think that PP has already demonstrated its democratic level, in any occasion, and Zapatero himself recognizes this.
I think that these arguments, democracy, populist parties seen as antidemocratic, are just a mass distraction for dumb people, what should i.e. FPO and Lega Nord demonstrate to be considered "normal" democratic parties, given that they have been already in power without any traumatic consequence?
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 04:51:28 AM »

New Profil/Karmasin poll:

29% SPÖ
27% FPÖ
23% ÖVP
13% Greens
  2% BZÖ
  6% Others (KPÖ, CPÖ, Pirates etc.)

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120405_OTS0009/profil-umfrage-freiheitliche-legen-zu-volkspartei-verliert-weiter

"Would you consider voting for the Austrian Pirate Party ?"

25% Yes
68% No

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120405_OTS0010/profil-umfrage-jeder-vierte-haelt-piratenpartei-fuer-waehlbar

BTW, the Austrian Pirate Party is not comparable with the German one, it's a joke party and barely exists.

"Do you think classes in schools should start at 9am, rather than 8am ?"

20% Yes
69% No

http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120405_OTS0011/profil-umfrage-mehrheit-der-oesterreicher-gegen-unterrichtsbeginn-um-neun-uhr

Austrian school starts 8am? That's crazy.

In Italy too. And I think that also worktime should start at the same time and not 9
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 04:05:00 AM »

If SPÖVP fail to reach a majority, is a SPÖVP + Greens coalition a possibility?

Yes, but I don't know if the ÖVP would be more likely to join a FPÖ-led coalition or a SPÖ-ÖVP-Green coalition. Austrian politicians never say which coalitions they prefer ahead of an election. But Spindelegger could opt for FPÖ-ÖVP, because the ÖVP would get more ministers in this coalition than they would get in a SPÖ-ÖVP-Green one.


Seems like my sort of politician. I'm guessing he's a quite likly ÖVP leader sometime in the future.

Anyway, besides the fact the President has said he'd never appoint such an government, what's the liklyhood of an FPÖ-ÖVP coalition after the next election?

What if (hypothetically) the FPÖ won a majority of seats in the federal parliament.  Could the President refuse to appoint that government?  What role (beyond ceremonial) does the president have over such things?

I think he has to swear this government in then, if the FPÖ gets 50%+

I found this explanation:

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It says that "if a parliamentary election results in an absolute majority for the winning party, the election is like a direct Chancellor election and then the Chancellor candidate is in the same position like the President and therefore the swearing-in of the Chancellor candidate by the President becomes de-facto binding."

Even though another source says this:

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This source says that Fischer could refuse to appoint Strache as Chancellor even if the FPÖ gets more than 50% of the vote. A FPÖ-majority in parliament could then block every law by a SPÖVP minority government by a no-confidence vote, which would lead to a failure of this SPÖVP minority government. If the SPÖVP minority government crashes, Fischer would either have to swear in Strache as Chancellor like Klestil had to do with the FPÖ/ÖVP coalition after the '99 elections or Fischer would need to step down as President.

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As you can see, the Austrian Constitutional Law from 1929 is very outdated when it comes to these scenarios and probably should be amended to have clear rules what to do in these situations. But the politicians back then probably thought that no party other than Socialists or Christian Democrats would ever head a government in the future ... Tongue

I hope Fischer would not be so anti-democratic. If FPO gets a majority, FPO leads the government. Period.
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