Opinion of KeeptheChange

[Joe Republic]

Libertas, as usual, you're not helping.

[Sam Spade]

This is one of those times when the fact that I skim uninteresting posts or posters is a real f-ing negative.  Sorry, folks about missing this one - though I always suspect things...

[RIP Robert H Bork]

HP.

Conservatives like Office Park, Arescan, Inks, Jmfcst, Smid and others are quite far to the right.  And probably close to KTCs views.  But they manage to express those views kindly.  Sometimes, KTC can do that but I am really disturbed by his characterization of poor people as leaches.  His remark that Haitians deserve to bet left to "rot and die" was particularly horrible.  As was his rant about Ted Kennedy.

I can see any of our conservatives opposing domestic welfare or foreign aid.  And I have seen them describe Ted Kennedy as a borderline murderer for his negligence in failing to aid a drowning girl.  But I cannot see ANY of them gleefully celebrating the death of Ted Kennedy or describing poor people and Haitians in the way KTC has. 

It's interesting though.  I tuned into Hannity today while my daughter had a tutoring session and he sounded almost word for word like KTC...going on about how poor people and the unemployed are worthless losers and how "earners" deserve perks for creating wealth.  It sounded awfully a lot like our new boy.  Again -- I know many agree with the ideas here.  But there's a way of expressing them without describing people as undesirables.

Definitely. In fact, I sported a D-MA avatar for a time following his death, and in the past I was in fact a constituent of his.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

HP.

Conservatives like Office Park, Arescan, Inks, Jmfcst, Smid and others are quite far to the right.  And probably close to KTCs views.  But they manage to express those views kindly.  Sometimes, KTC can do that but I am really disturbed by his characterization of poor people as leaches.  His remark that Haitians deserve to bet left to "rot and die" was particularly horrible.  As was his rant about Ted Kennedy.

I can see any of our conservatives opposing domestic welfare or foreign aid.  And I have seen them describe Ted Kennedy as a borderline murderer for his negligence in failing to aid a drowning girl.  But I cannot see ANY of them gleefully celebrating the death of Ted Kennedy or describing poor people and Haitians in the way KTC has. 

It's interesting though.  I tuned into Hannity today while my daughter had a tutoring session and he sounded almost word for word like KTC...going on about how poor people and the unemployed are worthless losers and how "earners" deserve perks for creating wealth.  It sounded awfully a lot like our new boy.  Again -- I know many agree with the ideas here.  But there's a way of expressing them without describing people as undesirables.

Definitely. In fact, I sported a D-MA avatar for a time following his death, and in the past I was in fact a constituent of his.

Did you miss the rest of this thread? JS is KTC.

[Torie]

How long have the moderators suspected this to be the case?

I can't speak for Alcon, but I only discovered it earlier today when I was asked if KtC's IP matched anybody else's.  I matched it to Coburn, but it wasn't until I traced the location that I figured JSo was behind it all.

I've checked the locations before, but never thought to match them together (which is my bad) and never would have thought of checking for a match to JSoj...ever.

Neither would I. 

[phk]

Freedom Fighter    

[President Mitt]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

Holy sh**

Haha! JS you suck!

Oh please, don't get me started, Pogo Stick

[Conservative frontier]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

Holy sh**

Haha! JS you suck!

Oh please, don't get me started, Pogo Stick

Yea, but that's the old, populist inferior scumbag me.

I'm reformed now!

[Frodo]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

Perhaps you should have come to the realization that he was trying way too hard to be "liked and respected" in order to cover up any such suspicion....

[Bo]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

I second this, just as long as everyone's IP is actually checked and no one is left out. Otherwise it would be unfair. I have nothing to hide (such as another account) and thus I have nothing to worry about.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

I second this, just as long as everyone's IP is actually checked and no one is left out. Otherwise it would be unfair. I have nothing to hide (such as another account) and thus I have nothing to worry about.

Why would they just need to randomly check every IP address unless there was a particular disruptive troll they were trying to match up?

[Bo]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

I second this, just as long as everyone's IP is actually checked and no one is left out. Otherwise it would be unfair. I have nothing to hide (such as another account) and thus I have nothing to worry about.

Why would they just need to randomly check every IP address unless there was a particular disruptive troll they were trying to match up?

Just to make sure no one is hiding anything. After JS was discovered, nothing can be left assumed.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

I second this, just as long as everyone's IP is actually checked and no one is left out. Otherwise it would be unfair. I have nothing to hide (such as another account) and thus I have nothing to worry about.

Why would they just need to randomly check every IP address unless there was a particular disruptive troll they were trying to match up?

Just to make sure no one is hiding anything. After JS was discovered, nothing can be left assumed.

Um, where is there to hide? Unless there is a troll disrupting things like Coburn, I don't see what they could possibly even be looking for?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It might make sense simply to do an IP check on everyone and look for matches when trolls come around. Doing one now though with no trolls to check for would be pointless though.

[Joe Republic]

For the sake of openness, we (the mods) are about to start compiling IP addresses of every current, regular poster.  There are still several suspicious characters lurking around here, and today's developments have shown that absolutely anybody is potentially guilty.

If there's one thing I'm most angry about JSojourner's deception, is the extra work he's now causing us to help keep this forum running smoothly.

[dead0man]

I have two, one at work and one at home....and they're both probably dynamic.  But they will come consistently from the same two IP ranges, Cox Omaha and Offutt AFB.

[Psychic Octopus]

Just to note: I have used multiple computers, I am not a sock. I am on my laptop now, I use a home computer, my old computer got destroyed, and I sometimes have accessed the site at school and on vacation.

[phk]

I was going to wait a while until I ran some tests before I was obligated to posts this in public, but yes:  JSojourner shares his IP with KeeptheChange and Coburn, and it's a private IP so there's no chance that they're all different connections...

Sorry to say.

What the F***?
Is there anybody out there who hasn't sockpuppeted?
I can't believe JSojourner did this, Coburn actually seemed legit (good job man, would've never guessed he was fake).

Perhaps it is time for the mods here to have everyone's IP checked.  If someone as liked and respected as JSojourner could stoop to this, then no one here can be above suspicion.   

Perhaps you should have come to the realization that he was trying way too hard to be "liked and respected" in order to cover up any such suspicion....

This. Accumulating social capital to eventually burn it all and then some on this day.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Just to note: I have used multiple computers, I am not a sock. I am on my laptop now, I use a home computer, my old computer got destroyed, and I sometimes have accessed the site at school and on vacation.

Me too. At different times I post either in New York or in Massachusetts. I hope innocent posters don't get caught up in this.

[Хahar 🤔]

I doubt anything will be noticed unless it's a match or it's a proxy.

[Joe Republic]

If the same poster uses multiple IPs, that's not a problem.  Most of us do that anyway.  But if any of a poster's IPs match that of a 'suspicious character', then we have a problem.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

JSojourner is Coburn in 2012?

LOL

     Yeah, that seems an interesting development, to say the least.

I really hope JS has no sock accounts at all given my personal desire to see all who create sock accounts banned.

     Perhaps there can be a more nuanced policy implemented than SLAY ALL SOCKHOLDERS!1

Why, PiT?.......Coburn has racked up a ton of posts and arguments for what reason?  Just for a fucking joke?  

     The internets are not serious business. With that said, I'd prefer people not create socks to annoy us, but I don't think we should act like them having done so is a cardinal sin.

PiT, c'mon, socks and trolls have nearly ruined this Forum.  That's why Mr. Leip and the mods are on a jihad right now.

[Torie]

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That really does suck Joe. I feel for you all. If there is any way any of us can help, don't hesitate to ask.

[Franzl]

I wonder if JS will ever post again.