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« on: February 27, 2010, 01:26:22 am »

Context:

(1)  No bid contracts galore; stealth occupations along Af-Pak border and Colombia

(2)  More bank bailouts; more exec. bonuses; more fees extracted from the public for withdrawing their own money

(3)  Mandate to buy private insurance

(4)  Nominal unemployment at 11.7% (really, ~ 21%); despite tax cuts for "small" "businesses" that "hire" people

(5)  Crumbling infrastructure accelerates; no WPA-like jobs program to rebuild

(6)  Reps. run on cultural platitudes (welfare queens in designer jeans), big gummint bad, and folksiness (as much as Romney can muster).

(7)  Obama runs on "creative class" megalomania, collapsing any discontent into evidence of racism, parochialism, or being too "bitter" about things.  Creative class swoons.

[8]  Warren runs a campaign on a simple premise:  "End the rent-seeking."  Her platform includes:
     (a) let the big banks fail, unguarantee that 22 trillion Obama/Bush guaranteed; build a network of local credit unions
     (b) single-payer Medicare for All; mandatory maximum patient-doctor ratio for counties
     (c) no more mercenaries; public defense as our one, true defense
     (d) nationalize utilities
     (e) universal education (detaching funding for K-12 from property taxes, free tuition to public universities for qualifying students, teachers academies, universal maximum of 20:1 student-teacher ratio, teacher salaries beginning at 40k or inflation-adjusted equivalent thereafter; universal one-year vocational training for those who do not attend college)
     (f) simplify tax code:  eliminate loopholes, credits, consumption taxes; add brackets to income taxes above the current top bracket; tax accumulated/corporate wealth at rates commensurate with or exceeding rates from labor-derived income [a 100 page tax code]
    (g) publicly-financed campaigns for federal office
    (h) permanent WPA-like program to rebuild and maintain infrastructure
    (i) points to rent-seeking behavior of Ds & Rs:  broken promises and vote beggars
    (j) initially conciliatory to media; become more confrontational (e.g., "Who owns you?" to corporate media "journalists")

Obama Approval/Disapproval, Feb. 2012 - 36%/62%
Obama vs. Romney, February 2012
Romney - 36%
Obama - 36%
DK/Other - 28%



Warren/Flowers announce together, Mar. 2012
Romney - 35%
Obama - 34%
Warren - 21%
DK/Other - 10%



Warren/Flowers complete 50-state tour, Apr. 2012
Romney - 35%
Obama - 33%
Warren - 23%
DK/Other - 9%



20 Democrats in the House declare themselves as Independents, endorse Warren/Flowers, May 2012
Romney - 34%
Obama - 32%
Warren - 26%
DK/Other - 8%



50-State "Main St. over Wall St.:  End the Rents" Lectures Begin, Faction of Tea Party membership endorses Warren/Flowers, June 2012
Romney - 33%
Obama - 31%
Warren - 29%
DK/Other - 7%



Five Senators (Dorgan, Byrd, Rockefeller, Whitehouse, Sanders) and 15 more House Members declare themselves as Independents and endorse Warren/Flowers; Hillary Clinton resigns from admn., does not endorse; July 2012
Warren - 33%
Romney - 32%
Obama - 29%
DK/Other - 6%



August 2012
Series of union endorsements; three more senators endorse Warren (Gillibrand, Tester, Inyoue); Biden makes remark some women just "push his buttons," to which Obama says he "just doesn't understand why some women are so upset with him."  Obama also makes offhand comment about older Americans who have been "so scared of change."  Romney continues to get hammered for flip-flopping on abortion.  Warren continually points out that RomneyCare = ObamaCare = Insurance Bailouts.

Day before Dem. Convention - Hillary Clinton endorses Warren.

Dem. Convention - Phoenix
"Changing Hopes™:  Brought to you by Golden Sacks, Pfizer, and Bank of America"
Interpretive Dances, Multicultural Parades, Warren = Palin, Romney = Racist
Warren - 35%
Romney - 32%
Obama - 28%
DK/Others - 5%



Sept. 2012
Rep. Convention - Salt Lake City
"No! We're the real hope that you can change!"
No more big gummint, more furdom, cowboys and indians reenactment, tea bags drop from ceiling instead of balloons
Warren - 38%
Romney - 31%
Obama - 27%
DK/Others - 4%



Oct. 2012
Warren/Flowers - Convention - Orlando
"End the Rents-Seeking"
Each night devote to two or three policies
1st:  Permanent WPA/Infrastructure, Utilities
2nd:  Education, Foreign Policy, Campaign Finance
3rd:  Medicare for All, Banks, the Corporate-Bipartisan Symbiosis
Another 50-state tour, Coordinated independent congressional races (many write-ins endorsed by Warren-Flowers)
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 01:44:34 am »

31.Oct.2012
Warren - 41%
Romney - 30%
Obama - 26%
DK/Other - 3%



01.Nov.2012
Warren - 44%
Romney -29%
Obama - 25%
DK/Other - 2%



05.Nov.2012
Warren - 47%
Romney - 28%
Obama - 24%
DK/Other - 1%



Leaked Exit Poll
Warren - 50%
Romney - 27%
Obama - 23%

Later that night...
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 11:45:09 am »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 01:28:43 pm by tarheel maniac »

It's 7:00PM EST, and we can report...
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Elizabeth Warren has won:
Indiana
Kentucky
South Carolina
Georgia
Virginia
Vermont



Warren - 60 EV - 49%
Romney - 0 EV - 29%
Obama - 0 EV - 22%

At 7:30PM EST, we can now report...
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Elizabeth Warren has won:
West Virginia
Ohio




Warren - 83 EV - 53%
Romney - 0 EV - 29%
Obama - 0 EV - 18%

A deluge of poll closings at the top of the hour...
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 11:53:45 am »

who is that women?
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 12:20:31 pm »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 01:28:13 pm by tarheel maniac »

At 8:00PM EST, we can now report...
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Elizabeth Warren has won:
Oklahoma
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi
Missouri
Illinois
Michigan
Pennsylvania
New Hampshire
Connecticut
Maine
Tennessee


We can also report...
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Barack Obama will win:
DC

Maryland, Delaware, and New Jersey are TOO CLOSE TO CALL.



Warren - 237 EV - 51%
Romney - 0 EV - 27%
Obama - 3 EV - 22%


At 8:30PM EST, we can report...
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Elizabeth Warren has won:
North Carolina
Arkansas


Warren - 259 EV - 52%
Romney - 0 EV - 26%
Obama - 3 EV - 22%


8:45PM EST:
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We can report that Elizabeth Warren has won:
New Jersey
Delware




Warren - 276 EV - 50%
Romney - 0 EV - 27%
Obama - 3 EV - 23%

Elizabeth Warren has been elected President of the United States.
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We're looking at a washout in the Electoral College.  Obama has won DC.  Romney is expected to be competitive in some western states.  Obama could eek out wins in Maryland and Hawaii.
Maryland
[With 50% Precincts Reporting...]
Obama - 40%
Romney - 23%
Warren - 37%
Western Maryland and some of the Eastern shore results are still outstanding.

A bevy of poll closings at the top of the hour.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 12:28:50 pm »

What is this? And who is Elizabeth Warren?
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 12:29:23 pm »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 01:27:24 pm by tarheel maniac »

At 9:00PM EST, we can report that President-Elect Warren will win:
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Louisiana
Arizona
Texas
Wisconsin
Minnesota
New York
Rhode Island
New Mexico
Nebraska
South Dakota


NE - 3 is TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

Wyoming and Colorado are  TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

Maryland
[75% Reporting]
Obama - 39%
Warren - 37%
Romney - 24%



Warren - 398 EV - 52%
Romney - 0 EV - 27%
Obama - 3 EV - 21%

9:45PM EST... We can make the following calls:

Maryland, with 98% reporting, goes to Obama.
Obama - 38%
Warren -36%
Romney - 26%

Wyoming and Colorado go to President-Elect Elizabeth Warren.


NE - 3 is still too close to call:
[35% precincts reporting]
Warren - 45%
Romney - 46%
Obama - 9%

Warren - 410 EV - 52%
Romney - 0 EV - 27%
Obama - 13 EV - 21%


At 10:00PM EST, we can report...

Elizabeth Warren will win:
Montana
Iowa
Nevada
Kansas


Utah is TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

NE - 3 is still too close to call:
[45% precincts reporting]
Warren - 46%
Romney - 46%
Obama - 8%



Warren - 431 EV - 53%
Romney - 0 EV - 27%
Obama - 13 EV - 20%
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 12:55:11 pm »

What is this? And who is Elizabeth Warren?

What is this? And who is Elizabeth Warren?

Elizabeth Warren is law professor specializing in bankruptcy law.  She was the chair for the panel overseeing TARP (which Obama/Dems and Rethugz want to give no powers to).  She also proposed the idea of a Consumer Financial Protection Agency, which of course, the legacy parties and Leader Obama™ want to make absolutely powerless if it were to ever pass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A

Margaret Flowers, MD is a doctor and single-payer/Medicare for All advocate.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 01:26:17 pm »
« Edited: February 27, 2010, 01:30:40 pm by tarheel maniac »

At 11:00PM, we can report...

Elizabeth Warren will win:
California
Oregon
North Dakota


Mitt Romney will win:
Utah
[65% Reporting]
Romney - 49%
Warren - 42%
Obama - 8%
Others - 1%

NE - 3
[75% Reporting]
Romney - 47%
Warren - 45%
Obama - 7%
Others - 1%

Washington, Idaho, and Hawaii are TOO CLOSE TO CALL.



Warren - 496 EV - 51%
Romney - 7 EV - 28%
Obama - 13 EV - 21%

11:45PM EST, we can report...

President-Elect Warren will carry:
Washington
[45% Reporting]
Warren - 37%
Romney - 32%
Obama - 30%
Others - 1%

Idaho
[85% Reporting]
Warren - 48%
Romney - 42%
Obama - 9%
Others - 1%



Warren - 512 EV - 50%
Romney - 7 EV - 30%
Obama - 13 EV - 20%

Hawaii is still TOO CLOSE TO CALL
[40% Reporting]
Obama - 36%
Romney - 32%
Warren - 32%

Final poll closing, Alaska, at Midnight EST.


12:00 Midnight EST, we can report...
Alaska is TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

Hawaii is still TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
[65% precincts reporting]
Obama - 37%
Romney - 33%
Warren - 31%


12:45AM EST, we can report...
Obama has won:
Hawaii
[85% precincts reporting]
Obama - 36%
Romney - 32%
Warren - 32%

At 1:30AM, we can report...
Warren has won:
Alaska
[65% precincts reporting]
Warren - 47%
Romney - 43%
Obama - 9%
Others - 1%

The popular vote seems to be stabilizing and the final electoral map is complete.


Warren - 515 EV - 49.9%
Romney - 7 EV - 21.3%
Obama - 17 EV - 28.4%
Others - 0 EV - 0.4%
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 01:36:32 pm »

Obama's concession speech:

I lost because of racism and Christianist zealots!  Freedom means free trade and mandatory purchasing of private junk insurance.  It means outsourcing our manufacturing and agricultural base:  We make KnOwLeDgE and CrEaTiViTy!  Women don't know what they're doing.  Viva Golden Sacks and BlueCross!  Even my boi Romney would've been better!

Romney's concession speech:

Freedom means no corporate or inheritance taxes and free trade.  C'mon guys I'm really pretty, even prettier than Obama.  Why didn't my boi fans have a crush on me!  I'm gonna go buy a country now.  I thought I played pious cowboy well!
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 01:37:51 pm »

[Warren's speech and Congressional Results forthcoming.]
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2010, 04:37:17 pm »

This time line sucks, good bye! What a hack!
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2010, 05:12:51 pm »

Fail.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 03:21:11 pm »

Fail.
Da fuck?
This time line sucks, good bye! What a hack!


Cogent arguments all!  I'm not a betting person, but i'd bet Obama and his fan-boi base play the race card and bash Southerners/old people/Christians/women...again!
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 03:27:15 pm »

This would have been a lot more realistic if you had chosen a candidate people have heard of.
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 04:54:27 pm »

This would have been a lot more realistic if you had chosen a candidate people have heard of.

I've never heard of Gary Johnson anywhere except Atlas.  He seems to get a lot of attn.  Hope™fully we'll hear more from her.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2010, 05:00:49 pm »

Horrible news for you, Gporter, someone just overthrew you.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 05:01:40 pm »

This woman certainly sounds like she'd make a better president than Obama. I've heard of her before on The Daily Show though, and I don't really see her diving into national politics anytime soon.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 05:05:12 pm »

Yay, a new Johnnyboy ! Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 05:08:33 pm »

Antonio: I have nothing to do with this one, I swear!
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2010, 05:10:47 pm »

Every time this "timeline" is updated, a little doggy dies

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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2010, 06:17:27 pm »

Horrible news for you, Gporter, someone just overthrew you.

lulz
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2010, 09:34:37 am »

Bump. While the election was a bit wacky, I am interested to see how a legitimate Lefty would have handled the government.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2011, 04:39:01 pm »

sorry for the mega necro, but i was browsing and saw the "whos warren?" comments. Funny considering she is now the hero of the progressives in Massachusetts lol
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2011, 05:37:07 pm »

sorry for the mega necro, but i was browsing and saw the "whos warren?" comments. Funny considering she is now the hero of the progressives in Massachusetts lol

lolyeah.

I remember when this first popped up and everybody and their grandmother was like "who the f***ing F***istan is Elizabeth F***in' Warner?!" and nowdays it's like she's suddenly the hottest sh*t Massachusetts Dems have at overthrowing Scott Wonderboy Brown.
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