The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Associate Justice PiT]

Alright then.  I will put this up to vote before I go to sleep tonight to give tb75 and GPORTER some time to voice any objections.  In the meantime, where did you get your $630 billion figure from?

     A GM report from Purple State's tenure as such. I know that there's a link to it somewhere in this topic, but good luck finding it in here.

[Yelnoc]

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The above bill is now at vote and will remain so for twenty-four hours or until all Legislators have voted.

[Yelnoc]

Aye

[Yelnoc]

Alright then.  I will put this up to vote before I go to sleep tonight to give tb75 and GPORTER some time to voice any objections.  In the meantime, where did you get your $630 billion figure from?

     A GM report from Purple State's tenure as such. I know that there's a link to it somewhere in this topic, but good luck finding it in here.

Gah.  I'll get on it once the vote makes it official.  In the meantime, do you have any other leads?  You've been here a lot longer than I have.

If I have time I will try and categorize every bill passed by this legislative body into a spending report to help us determine our debt when we figure out our tax rate.  Once we've scraped every bit of information up we can use Georgia law like you suggested to fill in the gaps unless anyone objects.

[Dancing with Myself]

Aye

[Associate Justice PiT]

Alright then.  I will put this up to vote before I go to sleep tonight to give tb75 and GPORTER some time to voice any objections.  In the meantime, where did you get your $630 billion figure from?

     A GM report from Purple State's tenure as such. I know that there's a link to it somewhere in this topic, but good luck finding it in here.

Gah.  I'll get on it once the vote makes it official.  In the meantime, do you have any other leads?  You've been here a lot longer than I have.

If I have time I will try and categorize every bill passed by this legislative body into a spending report to help us determine our debt when we figure out our tax rate.  Once we've scraped every bit of information up we can use Georgia law like you suggested to fill in the gaps unless anyone objects.

     There was one bill passed by the Legislature that created tax credits for college students. That might have affect the tax brackets, but that's all I can think of. Our region is one rather loathe to pass tax & spending increases as it were. The main issue is that we ought to get around to wiki-ing all of these bills at some point. I am pretty busy this weekend, though I can get started on it tonight.

     We actually filled in the gaps a while ago. Where not provided for by statute, all law in the region is that of the state of Georgia from 2006. Unfortunately, I had difficulty finding anything on state tax rates prior to 2009, though I doubt there is much of a difference, if any.

     

[Yelnoc]

The bill passes 2-1 and his awaiting your signature, Emperor PiT.

GPORTER, I put my name and PiT's on the bill because we seem to be the only people interested in this and I wanted to hold us accountable.  As to your concerns, see clause 3.

Sorry guys but I'm busy tonight and probably tomorrow night.  By this weekend I will hopefully have something to show.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     On the Creation of a Budget Investigation Commission Act: by the powers vested in me as Emperor of this region, I thus sign it into law.

     Be it resolved, X Emperor PiT

[Associate Justice PiT]

     You'd have to be explicit that such a thing is not an elected office. Maybe also reduce the qualifications, or at least make them more explicit (does it apply to federal elections, regional elections, or both?).

[Yelnoc]

You can take the "I am proposing" bit out of your bill; it's supposed to be written in third person.  As I have said before, I just put my name and PiT's on the last bill because we seem to be the only two people that care.  If anyone wants to help them just pipe up and if it matters to you we can get that bill amended.

Just to reiterate, this has been/is going to be a bad rl week for me.  Don't expect anything until the weekend.

[Yelnoc]

You can take the "I am proposing" bit out of your bill; it's supposed to be written in third person.  As I have said before, I just put my name and PiT's on the last bill because we seem to be the only two people that care.  If anyone wants to help them just pipe up and if it matters to you we can get that bill amended.

Just to reiterate, this has been/is going to be a bad rl week for me.  Don't expect anything until the weekend.

Thats fine...I don't see anything wrong with offering people a chance to run for seats on the commission...I would ask you Mr. Speaker, you say that you and Pit were only put as co chairs because you two "seemed to be the only ones that cared..." Did you ask any others if they wanted to serve?

The "commission" was just a fancy way of holding us legally accountable.  As I said, anyone is welcome to serve but no one showed any interest.  If they aren't involved enough to read the legislative thread I doubt they care enough to do this kind of heavy lifting.

If you want your name on the bill you could have just said so.  Regardless, you are more than welcome to help

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If I may, I would like to see the bill amended to this:

Voice of the Citizen Bill

1. Coinciding with the next regularly scheduled regional election, a special election shall be held to select delegates for auxiliary seats on the regional Budget Investigation Commission.
     a. Voting shall be conducted via approval voting, with the three eligible candidates receiving the most preferences being selected.
     b. In order to be eligible for a seat on the Budget Investigation Commission, a candidate must have voted in the last four regularly scheduled regional elections and have been a registered citizen for at least six months prior to the beginning of the election.
2. Being a temporary commission with a well-defined endgoal, no seat on the Budget Investigation Commission may be interpreted as being a public office.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I realized that four regularly scheduled regional elections amounts to four months, so I also included a requirement that they have been a member of the region for six months. Requiring that they have been a member of the region for a year would put a significant burden on myself to track down the last registration of that person, going back a year.

[Yelnoc]

I was thinking of this as like a committee or commission, similar to the "Ways and Means" committee in Congress, an organ of government not tied into direct Democracy.  A seat means nothing, there isn't even any prestige as we are only a couple of bookies.

PiT, would your bill replace the bill or amend it?  If the latter, could you fit it to the original?  In any event, this won't get off the ground until this weekend when I have some free time (unless someone else wants to do something), so I am going to wait and see if tb75 has anything to say before putting it up to a vote.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I was thinking of this as like a committee or commission, similar to the "Ways and Means" committee in Congress, an organ of government not tied into direct Democracy.  A seat means nothing, there isn't even any prestige as we are only a couple of bookies.

PiT, would your bill replace the bill or amend it?  If the latter, could you fit it to the original?  In any event, this won't get off the ground until this weekend when I have some free time (unless someone else wants to do something), so I am going to wait and see if tb75 has anything to say before putting it up to a vote.

     If it's a permanent gig, somebody could sue arguing that the Commission seats amount to an office, denying us the utilization of any elected officials. Modelling it like a Convention was the best idea I had to head that off.

     It would replace the original bill, though I think it still needs some tweaking. I looked at the last four elections & realized that by these criteria I'd be the only person in the region to actually qualify for a seat.

[Yelnoc]

I was thinking of this as like a committee or commission, similar to the "Ways and Means" committee in Congress, an organ of government not tied into direct Democracy.  A seat means nothing, there isn't even any prestige as we are only a couple of bookies.

PiT, would your bill replace the bill or amend it?  If the latter, could you fit it to the original?  In any event, this won't get off the ground until this weekend when I have some free time (unless someone else wants to do something), so I am going to wait and see if tb75 has anything to say before putting it up to a vote.

     If it's a permanent gig, somebody could sue arguing that the Commission seats amount to an office, denying us the utilization of any elected officials. Modelling it like a Convention was the best idea I had to head that off.

     It would replace the original bill, though I think it still needs some tweaking. I looked at the last four elections & realized that by these criteria I'd be the only person in the region to actually qualify for a seat.

Then how about we stop going through all of this fuss about a "commission" or "convention" and make it an informal position?  Or we could do something like this:

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[Associate Justice PiT]

     I like the sound of that, though I think it would require us to repeal the last bill.

[Yelnoc]

    I like the sound of that, though I think it would require us to repeal the last bill.

*sigh*

Better?

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[Associate Justice PiT]

     I'm happy with it. I suggest giving it a day or so & seeing what your colleagues think of it.

[Yelnoc]

Re-modified to include the position of the AG.

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[Dancing with Myself]

The bill sound good, i have no complaints

[Yelnoc]

And the bill goes to a vote.

[Yelnoc]

Aye

[Dancing with Myself]

Aye

[Yelnoc]

The bill has passed 3-0 and is awaiting your signature Emperor PiT.