The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Mr. Taft Republican]

2-1, passes, up for signature.

While we're waiting for that, why not debate this one? (Sanchez's is up next after this one I do believe)

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[Associate Justice PiT]

     On the Private School Administration Rights Bill: by the powers vested in me as Emperor of this region, I thus sign it into law.

     Be it resolved, X Emperor PiT

[Associate Justice PiT]

     As I said before, I am amenable to the idea of this, though I think re-numbering dozens of laws would be needlessly difficult. If the goal is to differentiate initiatives from bills, then I would suggest requiring all initiatives to have "initiative" & all bills to have "bill" or "act". There are many laws passed as initiatives to have "act" in their titles & many of both that have neither term in their titles.

[Yelnoc]

As I said in the Legislative thread, I am retracting that bill.  Next is tb75's bill, then Sanchez's.

[Dancing with Myself]

Do I need to introduce it or is up to you Yelnoc?

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Well then here we go Please debate! *drumroll*

The Freedom to View Classic Network News Act

1.   All local Broadcast Network affiliate stations must let anyone who is interested view anything the person wants from the stations archives. The inside viewing of a broadcast will be free, but the person must pay a Ten Dollar per hour fee if the broadcast is to be taken out of the archives.

2.   The Vanderbilt News Archives, as well as any other news archives located in the south will no longer charge exorbant fees to buy a copy of a news broadcast. The person buying the broadcast will have to pay for shipping however.

3.   Each of the major state universities in the south will have the option to  create new archives to keep their own recordings of network newscasts. The same rules for the other archives will apply to the new ones. The funding for the archives will be through private donations

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[Dancing with Myself]

The reason why I created this bill was because of my real life struggles. I am a news fan, and like to watch old news, but it is nearly impossible to do that because the Vanderbilt Archive charges ridiculous prices and not an average user can afford to buy the items. Plus Vanderbilt is in the southeast, so it is in our jurisdiction.

This bill does not use any government money, and is just for News Stations and Colleges.  That's my few cents on the bill, thanks

[Yelnoc]

I assume we are talking about online viewing?

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Alright then, please discuss!

The Freedom to View Classic Network News Act

1.   All local Broadcast Network affiliate stations must let anyone who is interested view anything the person wants from the stations archives. The inside viewing of a broadcast will be free, but the person must pay a Ten Dollar per hour fee if the broadcast is to be taken out of the archives.

2.   The Vanderbilt News Archives, as well as any other news archives located in the south will no longer charge exorbant fees to buy a copy of a news broadcast. The person buying the broadcast will have to pay for shipping however.

3.   Each of the major state universities in the south will have the option to  create new archives to keep their own recordings of network newscasts. The same rules for the other archives will apply to the new ones. The funding for the archives will be through private donations

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So far, all looks good to me.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     A couple thoughts:

1. They should be able to charge a minimal fee for inside viewing (say $2-3/hour) on their equipment. If they're paying for the electricity to run these tapes, they shouldn't have to do it at a net loss, no matter how small that net loss might be.

2. We should define "exorbitant" fees more exactly. What exactly are the fees that they are charging?

[Dancing with Myself]

     A couple thoughts:

1. They should be able to charge a minimal fee for inside viewing (say $2-3/hour) on their equipment. If they're paying for the electricity to run these tapes, they shouldn't have to do it at a net loss, no matter how small that net loss might be.

2. We should define "exorbitant" fees more exactly. What exactly are the fees that they are charging?

1. Well,  I can amend that

2. The Archive charges 100 Dollars for an hour worth of footage, 50 for half hour. Average Political fans can afford to pay 600 dollars for election footage.

[Dancing with Myself]

I assume we are talking about online viewing?

No this is for either on site or home viewing

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Will the broadcasters right to charge any fee they desire be protected?

[Dancing with Myself]

Will the broadcasters right to charge any fee they desire be protected?

The Archives are protected by the copyright laws. All of the networks actually pay for videos by the archives.  So no, they can't charge

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Will the broadcasters right to charge any fee they desire be protected?

The Archives are protected by the copyright laws. All of the networks actually pay for videos by the archives.  So no, they can't charge

Ah ok. I lean towards Aye on this vote, nothing wrong with it at all.

[Dancing with Myself]

Here is the updated Bill:

The Freedom to View Classic Network News Act

1.   All local Broadcast Network affiliate stations must let anyone who is interested view anything the person wants from the stations archives. The inside viewing of a broadcast will  will cost 2-3 Dollars an hour, but the person must pay a Ten Dollar per hour fee if the broadcast is to be taken out of the archives.

2.   The Vanderbilt News Archives, as well as any other news archives located in the south will no longer charge exorbant fees to buy a copy of a news broadcast. The person buying the broadcast will have to pay for shipping however.

3.   Each of the major state universities in the south will have the option to  create new archives to keep their own recordings of network newscasts. The same rules for the other archives will apply to the new ones. The funding for the archives will be through private donations

[Yelnoc]

I'm leaning towards an Aye.  I formatted and cleaned up the bill below.

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[Dancing with Myself]

I'm leaning towards an Aye.  I formatted and cleaned up the bill below.

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Thanks

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Looks like sufficient support, up to a vote.

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[Yelnoc]

Aye.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I notice that my second suggestion wasn't really implemented.

[Dancing with Myself]

Aye

[Yelnoc]

     I notice that my second suggestion wasn't really implemented.

I tried to do that with 2b.  What did you have in mind?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Aye.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I notice that my second suggestion wasn't really implemented.

I tried to do that with 2b.  What did you have in mind?

     I meant setting caps on how much they can charge. For that matter, everything else ought to be set as a cap; if an archive wants to rent out its tapes for free for whatever reason, I don't see why it shouldn't be able to do so. I also realized later that the per-hour rate for taking tapes out in Section 1 should be specified (I assume that it refers to per-hour of footage, but someone could interpret to mean per-hour that it is rented, which would be ultimately self-defeating).

     The bill is good enough as is, though I'd like to pass a bill amending this one at some point in the near future. I admire the enthusiasm of everyone involved, but there's nothing wrong with letting a bill sit for a day or so to see if any comments are made. Bills in the Senate will often sit there for weeks (one was on the floor for over three months) being debated & even then it has happened that someone will pop up at the eleventh hour to point out a critical flaw in the bill.