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« Reply #2925 on: August 14, 2012, 10:48:32 AM »

Just 25% of the people who voted? Doesn't that seem a little low? If 8 people voted in the governor's race, that means only 2 have to want to recall that guy and they could call a special election.

Yeah, I was concerned about that and thinking of bumping it up to around 50.
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« Reply #2926 on: August 14, 2012, 01:21:38 PM »

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« Reply #2927 on: August 14, 2012, 02:51:24 PM »

Just 25% of the people who voted? Doesn't that seem a little low? If 8 people voted in the governor's race, that means only 2 have to want to recall that guy and they could call a special election.

Yeah, I was concerned about that and thinking of bumping it up to around 50.

50% is a better number. We don't need to make recalling extremely easy.. Tongue
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« Reply #2928 on: August 14, 2012, 03:36:54 PM »

Glad to see these changes were made. Otherwise, this post would have been in opposition to the idea; I think 50% is a fair number, especially considering the low number of active participants we currently have.
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« Reply #2929 on: August 14, 2012, 03:49:22 PM »

I'm in favour of this. Is everyone happy with the lengthened term for emperor? If not, I'm willing to budge on it. But I do thank you for putting it in there, SJoyce.
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« Reply #2930 on: August 14, 2012, 07:18:57 PM »

     I think two month terms are nice since they help distinguish the region, but at the same time I fear that such frequent votes breed election fatigue.
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« Reply #2931 on: August 14, 2012, 07:32:48 PM »

     I think two month terms are nice since they help distinguish the region, but at the same time I fear that such frequent votes breed election fatigue.

It isn't like anyone's challenged you for Emperor for the past several months; a 4 month term wouldn't seem too long (plus, at least in Florida, State Reps are elected to 2 year terms while the Governor gets a 4-year one, so it'd make it align with what the system is there).
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« Reply #2932 on: August 14, 2012, 11:21:33 PM »

This part:

shall be elected to a term not to exceed 24 months in length.

Is this implying that Emperors can only serve one term of 4 months, or that the term itself is 4 months and therefore corresponds to Clause 2?

I think our election cycles are fine the way they are, and any problems that originate from them are a result of inactivity. People coming into this game - especially if we are still in the process of trying to build an active base - will not be engaged if they have to wait long periods of time to run for office. In this particular instance, most don't jump right in and run for Emperor, but the option should exist, if for nothing else than breaking the monotony and comedic effect.

I'm in agreement with Article IV, Clause 2 as it stands currently.
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« Reply #2933 on: August 15, 2012, 06:52:24 AM »

This part:

shall be elected to a term not to exceed 24 months in length.

Is this implying that Emperors can only serve one term of 4 months, or that the term itself is 4 months and therefore corresponds to Clause 2?

I think our election cycles are fine the way they are, and any problems that originate from them are a result of inactivity. People coming into this game - especially if we are still in the process of trying to build an active base - will not be engaged if they have to wait long periods of time to run for office. In this particular instance, most don't jump right in and run for Emperor, but the option should exist, if for nothing else than breaking the monotony and comedic effect.

I'm in agreement with Article IV, Clause 2 as it stands currently.

Currently the term of the Emperor is 2 months. This would increase it to 4, in order to decrease election fatigue and make elections for Emperor (like elections for President) a rarer occasion and thus generate more interest.
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« Reply #2934 on: August 15, 2012, 12:31:17 PM »

I'll give Duke and Adam Griffin a chance to respond to the proposed four-month term for Emperor. Barring any changes you'd wish to make, SJoyceFla, we can then bring it to a vote. Hopefully we can find a way to make everyone happy. Smiley

The four-month term, I believe, would lead to longer and more substantial campaigns for Emperor that could actually excite the electorate.
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« Reply #2935 on: August 15, 2012, 01:10:00 PM »

The four month term is fine for me. The only problem I could see it posing is if we actually have a competitive elections again in the region, but I haven't seen one in a long time. IIRC, neither myself, JBrase or PiT have seen strong opposition during our reigns in the Governor's Plantation, so my worries are probably not warranted. As it is now, it seems redundant to vote PiT back into office over and over again, and I don't expect to see competitive elections after he does retire. We probably have even less party diversity nowadays than we did when the RPP/JCP ruled things.

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« Reply #2936 on: August 15, 2012, 03:59:00 PM »

     I think October 2009 was the last time we had a competitive election for our regional executive. I guess we are at least united on the important issues of regional pride and maintaining a strong South. Smiley
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« Reply #2937 on: August 15, 2012, 05:11:14 PM »

     I think October 2009 was the last time we had a competitive election for our regional executive. I guess we are at least united on the important issues of regional pride and maintaining a strong South. Smiley

I remember that. Xahar won in a fluke. I still don't remember how that came about. Before I took office as governor the SE had 1 person vote in its election. Remember the reign of Kingofthebenchpress?
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« Reply #2938 on: August 15, 2012, 05:19:24 PM »

     I think October 2009 was the last time we had a competitive election for our regional executive. I guess we are at least united on the important issues of regional pride and maintaining a strong South. Smiley

I remember that. Xahar won in a fluke. I still don't remember how that came about. Before I took office as governor the SE had 1 person vote in its election. Remember the reign of Kingofthebenchpress?

     KotBP's storied tenure was just before me. I joined at about the time you became Governor.
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« Reply #2939 on: August 15, 2012, 05:52:43 PM »

     I think October 2009 was the last time we had a competitive election for our regional executive. I guess we are at least united on the important issues of regional pride and maintaining a strong South. Smiley

I remember that. Xahar won in a fluke. I still don't remember how that came about. Before I took office as governor the SE had 1 person vote in its election. Remember the reign of Kingofthebenchpress?

     KotBP's storied tenure was just before me. I joined at about the time you became Governor.

Oh right! After he won by getting 1 vote, I replaced him, the RPP was birthed and took over, and we seceded. What great times those were.
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« Reply #2940 on: August 15, 2012, 06:08:45 PM »

I'll give Duke and Adam Griffin a chance to respond to the proposed four-month term for Emperor.

I appreciate the time. I do not have any other concerns to bring up other than the previously mentioned ones.
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« Reply #2941 on: August 15, 2012, 07:05:41 PM »

All rightie. For the sake of time, I'm going to assume SJoyceFla is happy with the final version of this amendment and put it up for voting. Up for vote is the Recall And Term Length Amendment of 2012, as seen below:

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« Reply #2942 on: August 15, 2012, 07:20:27 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #2943 on: August 15, 2012, 07:24:18 PM »

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« Reply #2944 on: August 15, 2012, 09:10:57 PM »

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« Reply #2945 on: August 15, 2012, 10:04:33 PM »

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« Reply #2946 on: August 16, 2012, 11:38:17 AM »

*Walks into chamber in dramatic Mr. Smith style*

Aye!
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« Reply #2947 on: August 16, 2012, 01:48:33 PM »

Cool. It passes, 4-1.

You wanna resume your duties as Speaker now, JBrase?
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« Reply #2948 on: August 16, 2012, 02:10:33 PM »

Sure why not.

The bill passes and awaits Imperial action
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« Reply #2949 on: August 16, 2012, 04:46:46 PM »
« Edited: August 16, 2012, 04:50:07 PM by Emperor PiT »

     Since this is an amendment, it will have to pass a vote before the people. I will open the voting booth shortly.

     EDIT: I notice that the election begins tonight. In that case, I'll just include the amendment in the normal election booth.
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