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« Reply #2150 on: December 12, 2011, 04:12:15 AM »

     Do they actually encourage all of their graduates to leave the state?
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« Reply #2151 on: December 12, 2011, 04:27:03 AM »

Don't know if they do or don't, but the result is the same
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« Reply #2152 on: December 14, 2011, 02:50:34 AM »

     Anyway, I have no particular issue with this. Other opinions?
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« Reply #2153 on: December 14, 2011, 01:32:00 PM »

I can't think of anything offhand that might be bad with this bill, but my experience with higher education is non-existent.  But if we are done with debate, I can put it to a vote.

Pingivin, any ideas or opinions?
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« Reply #2154 on: December 14, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »

I can't think of anything offhand that might be bad with this bill, but my experience with higher education is non-existent.  But if we are done with debate, I can put it to a vote.

Pingivin, any ideas or opinions?

     Have you PMed him? I realized that I should have PMed the Darths when debate began on this bill, since I used to do that.
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« Reply #2155 on: December 14, 2011, 07:30:17 PM »

I can't think of anything offhand that might be bad with this bill, but my experience with higher education is non-existent.  But if we are done with debate, I can put it to a vote.

Pingivin, any ideas or opinions?

     Have you PMed him? I realized that I should have PMed the Darths when debate began on this bill, since I used to do that.
No, that's my job now...
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« Reply #2156 on: December 14, 2011, 10:28:58 PM »

I support this act - he provides better opportunities for our students!
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« Reply #2157 on: December 15, 2011, 07:42:51 AM »

Mr. Speaker I move to approve this bill by unanimos consent
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« Reply #2158 on: December 15, 2011, 08:17:38 AM »

We really do need a unanimous consent mechanism...let's make that the next item on the agenda.

Anmyway, the Higher Education STEM Act is up to a vote.


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« Reply #2159 on: December 15, 2011, 08:37:17 AM »

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« Reply #2160 on: December 15, 2011, 10:20:04 AM »

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« Reply #2161 on: December 15, 2011, 11:41:33 AM »

The vote passes unanimously and awaits the signature of the Emperor.
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« Reply #2162 on: December 15, 2011, 11:42:50 AM »

Let's consider this one next.  I'm going to go look at the federal statute to see what mechanism they use to invoke UC.

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« Reply #2163 on: December 15, 2011, 11:44:48 AM »

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« Reply #2164 on: December 15, 2011, 11:46:37 AM »

No, we're not voting on it yet.  We are debating it; right now it is at no form to be voted on.  Do you have any ideas that could help shape the bill or any opinion on unanimous consent?
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« Reply #2165 on: December 15, 2011, 02:17:45 PM »

So I found in the Senate OSPR that they use unanimous consent to wave a mandatory 72 hour debate period.  As we do not in the South have such a requirement, I'm not sure what this bill would accomplish.  I suppose we could give the Imperial Speaker the right to invoke "unanimous consent," whereby if no legislator votes on a bill within a 24 hour period the bill could be passed without quorum.  It could be invoked in cases where a legislators has indicated they support a bill but are unable to vote due to going out of town or something.
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« Reply #2166 on: December 15, 2011, 02:39:33 PM »

Maybe it is not necessary.... all of us are voting very quickly
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« Reply #2167 on: December 15, 2011, 02:44:08 PM »

Maybe it is not necessary.... all of us are voting very quickly
I was about to say "then lets motion to table it" but I'm not sure we have such a motion Tongue

PiT, you were the first Speaker.  Do we?
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« Reply #2168 on: December 15, 2011, 08:16:29 PM »



     On the Higher Education STEM Act: by the powers vested in me as Emperor of this region, I thus sign it into law.

     Be it resolved, X Emperor PiT
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« Reply #2169 on: December 15, 2011, 08:23:58 PM »

Maybe it is not necessary.... all of us are voting very quickly
I was about to say "then lets motion to table it" but I'm not sure we have such a motion Tongue

PiT, you were the first Speaker.  Do we?

     No, we always just had the sponsor withdraw the bill, or vote it down if that didn't happen. Personally I prefer the latter option for bills that fail due to ideological disagreement, so there is a record in the Wiki of the debate on the matter. I have on multiple occasions looked at failed initiatives & bills for ideas of new bills to propose.

     The Legislature has always been run in a much more informal manner than the Senate, since it's a smaller & more agile entity. Bureaucracy forcing us to leave debate or votes open for X period of time could impact activity pretty badly. Things are moving quickly now since we have active Legislators enthusiastic about legislating. Navigating needless waiting periods would put a damper on that enthusiasm.
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« Reply #2170 on: December 15, 2011, 08:42:00 PM »

Maybe it is not necessary.... all of us are voting very quickly
I was about to say "then lets motion to table it" but I'm not sure we have such a motion Tongue

PiT, you were the first Speaker.  Do we?

     No, we always just had the sponsor withdraw the bill, or vote it down if that didn't happen. Personally I prefer the latter option for bills that fail due to ideological disagreement, so there is a record in the Wiki of the debate on the matter. I have on multiple occasions looked at failed initiatives & bills for ideas of new bills to propose.

     The Legislature has always been run in a much more informal manner than the Senate, since it's a smaller & more agile entity. Bureaucracy forcing us to leave debate or votes open for X period of time could impact activity pretty badly. Things are moving quickly now since we have active Legislators enthusiastic about legislating. Navigating needless waiting periods would put a damper on that enthusiasm.
Agree with you there.  I don't think that this bill is notable enough to warrant a vote, however.

As the sponsor, I hereby withdraw the Unanimous Consent bill from consideration.
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« Reply #2171 on: December 15, 2011, 08:47:01 PM »

In keeping with the "The Our Opinions Matter Dag Nabbit! Act", the Legislature will now discuss the candidacy for Tmthforu94 for Secretary of Internal Affairs.  It is relevant to note that Tmth has been a senator, a cabinet member, and a President in the past, and is thus well-qualified for the job.  His record shows acceptable activity, in my view, and as such I have no objections to his nomination as SoIA.
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« Reply #2172 on: December 15, 2011, 11:12:03 PM »

No objections, I propose we move on to a substantive and meaningful discussion of my Right-to-Work bill
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« Reply #2173 on: December 16, 2011, 12:43:48 PM »

No objections, I propose we move on to a substantive and meaningful discussion of my Right-to-Work bill
Sure thing.  This is quite the bill you drafted.  I suggest before we start digging in, we comb through the statutes to page to make sure that none of this has been addressed by previous legislation. 

As to my person feeling on this bill, I am leery of removing from public employees.  In my opinion, only first responders (policemen and firefighters) should be barred from striking for obvious reasons.  If teachers want to go on strike, fine.  It would be better to remove employee protection from being fired during a strike then removing the civil liberty to strike altogether.

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« Reply #2174 on: December 16, 2011, 04:51:19 PM »

     I probably won't have the opportunity to compare statutes today, but the current law is this.
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