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FallenMorgan
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« on: March 09, 2010, 06:26:17 PM »

I have a question: why is it necessary to bash libertarians and take so much valuable time to criticize their ideology, if they're just some loonatic fringe comparable to neo-Nazis?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 06:52:14 PM »

they are condescending, arrogant, and pretend that their small ideology is always right and that everyone else is always wrong. Even if they agree with someone they may claim "you are not liberal/conservative enough"! If any Libertarian ever managed to get in a conversation with me on the street while coming off as a self-righteous prick they better pray not to piss me off.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 10:36:52 PM »

Anybody else notice that HoffmanJohn pretty much described his own behavior when saying what he disliked about libertarians?
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 02:35:01 PM »

they are just plain arrogant, and this is a fact.

Look at how Ron Paul pretended to be "champion of the constitution" without even earning that title. Did he win a competition or something? nope he just simply assumed that his view of the constitution was superior to someone else's view, and anyone who thought otherwise was simply deemed anti-constitution.


In the end that spend too much of their time being critical, and not enough of their time presenting new and interesting ideas.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black, again.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 09:26:50 PM »

they are just plain arrogant, and this is a fact.

Look at how Ron Paul pretended to be "champion of the constitution" without even earning that title. Did he win a competition or something? nope he just simply assumed that his view of the constitution was superior to someone else's view, and anyone who thought otherwise was simply deemed anti-constitution.


In the end that spend too much of their time being critical, and not enough of their time presenting new and interesting ideas.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black, again.

care to explain how that logical fallacy applies because that is exactly what Ron Paul and many of his supporters would do.

Because you yourself are a holier-than-thou, arrogant prick, which is exactly what you're accusing all libertarians of being.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 10:36:32 PM »

Actually, Alaska has the most non-religious people of any state.  Washington is second.  And non-religious doesn't necessarily mean atheist.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 11:18:44 PM »

they are just plain arrogant, and this is a fact.

Look at how Ron Paul pretended to be "champion of the constitution" without even earning that title. Did he win a competition or something? nope he just simply assumed that his view of the constitution was superior to someone else's view, and anyone who thought otherwise was simply deemed anti-constitution.


In the end that spend too much of their time being critical, and not enough of their time presenting new and interesting ideas.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black, again.

care to explain how that logical fallacy applies because that is exactly what Ron Paul and many of his supporters would do.

Because you yourself are a holier-than-thou, arrogant prick, which is exactly what you're accusing all libertarians of being.
In a modern democracy, not only can a libertarian be elitist; a libertarian has to be elitist. To be a libertarian in a modern democracy is to say that nearly 300 million Americans are wrong, and a handful of nay-sayers are right.   ”
    
— Bryan Caplan

Yes I am arrogant,but arrogance of many self-proclaimed Libertarians are tenfold and this is why I enjoy bashing them. Sure it is just my perception, but I have been arguing with libertarians for years. I know more about their ideology than many of them will probably even dare to consider. I know all of their arguments, and I have even read many of their books, papers and so forth.

Well, now you sound like you have some sort of psychological issue.  Don't you have anything more important to do than troll around the Internet and bash libertarians?  Also, your quote implies that libertarians are only a "handful" of the U.S. population, which they are not.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 10:32:01 AM »

Libertarianism is fundamentally a flawed concept and I find it interesting that the majority of libertarians on this board have yet to complete secondary school.

They'll grow up one day.

Explain all the libertarians who aren't teenagers, then.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 10:38:09 AM »

they are just plain arrogant, and this is a fact.

Look at how Ron Paul pretended to be "champion of the constitution" without even earning that title. Did he win a competition or something? nope he just simply assumed that his view of the constitution was superior to someone else's view, and anyone who thought otherwise was simply deemed anti-constitution.


In the end that spend too much of their time being critical, and not enough of their time presenting new and interesting ideas.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black, again.

care to explain how that logical fallacy applies because that is exactly what Ron Paul and many of his supporters would do.

Because you yourself are a holier-than-thou, arrogant prick, which is exactly what you're accusing all libertarians of being.
In a modern democracy, not only can a libertarian be elitist; a libertarian has to be elitist. To be a libertarian in a modern democracy is to say that nearly 300 million Americans are wrong, and a handful of nay-sayers are right.   ”
    
— Bryan Caplan

Yes I am arrogant,but arrogance of many self-proclaimed Libertarians are tenfold and this is why I enjoy bashing them. Sure it is just my perception, but I have been arguing with libertarians for years. I know more about their ideology than many of them will probably even dare to consider. I know all of their arguments, and I have even read many of their books, papers and so forth.

Well, now you sound like you have some sort of psychological issue.  Don't you have anything more important to do than troll around the Internet and bash libertarians?  Also, your quote implies that libertarians are only a "handful" of the U.S. population, which they are not.
How many self-identified Libertarians are there? make sure that you can provide me with a source to back up any claim you make. I would also like to point out that the "elitist" claim comes from Bryan Caplan who is a self-identified Libertarian.

About twenty percent.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,022
United States
Political Matrix
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 11:02:48 AM »

they are just plain arrogant, and this is a fact.

Look at how Ron Paul pretended to be "champion of the constitution" without even earning that title. Did he win a competition or something? nope he just simply assumed that his view of the constitution was superior to someone else's view, and anyone who thought otherwise was simply deemed anti-constitution.


In the end that spend too much of their time being critical, and not enough of their time presenting new and interesting ideas.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black, again.

care to explain how that logical fallacy applies because that is exactly what Ron Paul and many of his supporters would do.

Because you yourself are a holier-than-thou, arrogant prick, which is exactly what you're accusing all libertarians of being.
In a modern democracy, not only can a libertarian be elitist; a libertarian has to be elitist. To be a libertarian in a modern democracy is to say that nearly 300 million Americans are wrong, and a handful of nay-sayers are right.   ”
    
— Bryan Caplan

Yes I am arrogant,but arrogance of many self-proclaimed Libertarians are tenfold and this is why I enjoy bashing them. Sure it is just my perception, but I have been arguing with libertarians for years. I know more about their ideology than many of them will probably even dare to consider. I know all of their arguments, and I have even read many of their books, papers and so forth.

Well, now you sound like you have some sort of psychological issue.  Don't you have anything more important to do than troll around the Internet and bash libertarians?  Also, your quote implies that libertarians are only a "handful" of the U.S. population, which they are not.
How many self-identified Libertarians are there? make sure that you can provide me with a source to back up any claim you make. I would also like to point out that the "elitist" claim comes from Bryan Caplan who is a self-identified Libertarian.

About twenty percent.

So 20% of americans are self-identified Libertarians(notice the emphasis on self). Individuals can claim to be socially liberal and economically conservative but that does not mean that they are Libertarians.

By definition, libertarians believe in social and economic freedom.  Therefor, they are socially liberal and economically conservative, as are twenty percent of Americans.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 11:07:34 AM »

So we're somehow mentally inferior because of our age?

Well, duh.  You consider yourself mentally superior to a 10-year-old, don't you?

And libertarianism isn't worth discussing because it happens to be younger people who may more often be associated with it?

Sure you can discuss it all you want.  It's the best way to explore one's own philosophical inconsistencies and illogicalities.  And then, once you have a full understanding of what libertarianism is all about, you'll then be able to see how it has virtually no compatibility with real adult life once you get to that stage.

Explain all the libertarians out there who are not teenagers.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 10:10:28 PM »

Here's a question for you: why don't you just shut up and stop being an antagonistic little creep?

why don't you answer one of the qeustions and than provide your supporting details.

Why don't you be more civil, instead of acting like an insecure, small-dicked little sh-t?
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 10:16:06 PM »

Here's a question for you: why don't you just shut up and stop being an antagonistic little creep?

why don't you answer one of the qeustions and than provide your supporting details.

Why don't you be more civil, instead of acting like an insecure, small-dicked little sh-t?


stop changing the subject.

I haven't changed the subject at all.  The subject of this thread has always been how much of an insecure sh-t you are.
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