Libertarian Bashing

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

We bash Libertarians while we still can -- while we have a government capable of protecting our freedom of speech from corporations or popular sentiment.

LOL, coming from a neocon who no doubt supported Dubya's assaults on our freedom of speech on behalf of the corporations in the name of the "war on terror".

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sewer is disgusting.

Fixed.

Fixed for real.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

    Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold, actually. It's the ultimate rejection of servitude to others & likewise an assertion of independence.

This is why people don't take you seriously.

     If people do not take me seriously because I have the guts to question the normal views, then that's their problem; not mine. I march to my own drummer.

Satanism is disgusting.

     I'm not a Satanist for obvious reasons, so I am not sure what you are attempting to accomplish by posting that.

You've got to admit that "Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold" was a pretty ridiculous statement...

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sewer is disgusting.

Fixed.

Fixed for real.

Shut up, Coughlin.

No, Hitler.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

    Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold, actually. It's the ultimate rejection of servitude to others & likewise an assertion of independence.

This is why people don't take you seriously.

     If people do not take me seriously because I have the guts to question the normal views, then that's their problem; not mine. I march to my own drummer.

Satanism is disgusting.

     I'm not a Satanist for obvious reasons, so I am not sure what you are attempting to accomplish by posting that.

You've got to admit that "Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold" was a pretty ridiculous statement...

Yah, I wasn't trying to attack PiT if that's what PiT suggests, but seriously, Satanism? You've got to be out of your mind..................... Satanism is basically an attention-whore clique that exists solely to cause trouble.

While I wouldn't call Satanism disgusting or inconsistent with libertarianism, I do agree with Segway that it is a pretty "hey look at me I'm an attention whore!" theology.
Why can't people just be happy with atheism?

Cause atheism is also an example of "hey look at me I'm an attention whore!"

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

    Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold, actually. It's the ultimate rejection of servitude to others & likewise an assertion of independence.

This is why people don't take you seriously.

     If people do not take me seriously because I have the guts to question the normal views, then that's their problem; not mine. I march to my own drummer.

Satanism is disgusting.

     I'm not a Satanist for obvious reasons, so I am not sure what you are attempting to accomplish by posting that.

You've got to admit that "Satanism is a fairly logical position for a libertarian to hold" was a pretty ridiculous statement...

Yah, I wasn't trying to attack PiT if that's what PiT suggests, but seriously, Satanism? You've got to be out of your mind..................... Satanism is basically an attention-whore clique that exists solely to cause trouble.

While I wouldn't call Satanism disgusting or inconsistent with libertarianism, I do agree with Segway that it is a pretty "hey look at me I'm an attention whore!" theology.
Why can't people just be happy with atheism?

Cause atheism is also an example of "hey look at me I'm an attention whore!"

So choosing not to subject our lives in fear of an invisible sky daddy is being an attention whore? Not getting up way too early on Sunday dressing in fancy clothes and going to a building and singing loudly to songs so people can hear how good we sound is being an attention whore?  Not believing in this God dude is being an attention whore?
lolwut?

Yes, being an atheist certainly gets you the attention you desire, being from Oklahoma.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I might add, Libertas, that WA actually does have more atheists than Christians, which is why I hated it, oddly enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington#Religion

Hmm, are you sure about that?

Religion

Major religious affiliations of the people of Washington are:[25]

    * Protestant: 49%
          o Mainline: 23%
          o Evangelical: 25%
          o Other Protestant: 1%
    * Unaffiliated: 25%
    * Roman Catholic: 16%
    * Latter-day Saint: 4%
    * Muslim: 1%
    * Jewish: 1%
    * Other Religions: 3%

Nearly 70% are Christian according to this.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Atheism is not attention whoring. I don't agree with it, but most followers actually have reasons for holding their views, much as I do with my faith. Satanists on the other hand are just people looking to stir sh**t up and be "nonconformists".

It is when you become one just to show how contrarian and different you are from everyone around you.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Everyone in Seattle was an atheist except the people at my school, haha.

Washington has more atheists than any other state.

Actually, it's Oregon IIRC.

In numbers, perhaps, but percentagewise, its Vermont. Oregon is 67% Christian while Vermont is 55% Christian and 34% non-religious.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Capitalism works.

lol no

200 years of history has proven me right.

You're absolutely right.

That's not an example of capitalism. Abusive working conditions can occur under any economic system.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Libertarianism is fundamentally a flawed concept and I find it interesting that the majority of libertarians on this board have yet to complete secondary school.

They'll grow up one day.

Hmm, I've completed secondary school.

Have you conducted a study of the libertarians on this board to prove this conclusion of yours to be the case?

(Not that it's really relevant since your whole premise is just ageist bunkum, of course.)

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

And how old are you, Libertas?

I've never hidden my age, though its irrelevant to any sort of rational argument you could make.

Of greater concern is how old are you, Iosif?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Anybody can see for themselves that people who claim to be libertarians generally grow out of it by the time they've already flown the nest.  Those who don't are generally a bit... odd... in some way, with personalities that are in tune with their ideologies in terms of their place well outside the mainstream.  Hence why the Libertarian Party has never produced any viable candidates for any office, like, ever.

So if pointing out something that anybody can observe for themselves is ageist, then I guess you'll have to call me an ageist. 

The plural of anecdote is not data.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

There is such a thing called multi-tasking, you know. 

Anyway, hopefully I've managed to make some impact with you guys.  I don't expect you to fully grasp what I mean until you too have 'flown the nest' so to speak.  My reason for being in this thread up to now is to hopefully set some of your expectations for the future. 

LOL

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Perhaps it would be useful to define libertarianism.

If you define it as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, than Joe made a number of wrong statements. If you define it has miniarchists (as little government as possible) and anarcho-capitalists, then Joe would indeed be correct.

No he wouldn't.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

In fairness though, many of my older Republican extended family used to say that about my liberalism when I was a teenager too. Decades later I still hold the same fundamental core beliefs as I did then, and "the real world" only strengthened my conviction that my views are correct. On 20/20 hindsight, I view President Clinton's and Obama's economic policies to have been far more rational and pragmatic than anything the supposedly "realistic" conservatives like Reagan and the Bushes enacted.

I did say that young people who claim one of the mainstream ideologies are likelier to stick with it as they mature than those who claim one of the non-mainstream ones. 

Oh, and you are the arbiter of what is a "mainstream ideology"?