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Torie
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« on: March 10, 2010, 01:32:06 PM »
« edited: March 10, 2010, 01:34:17 PM by Torie »

I am not sure if this post is troll bait, but there is some truth in most of the posited "myths."  Life is often more nuanced than true and false. I actually posted a bit about how in practice AA can morph into quotas effectively speaking. If rationing = death panels, well then that is where we are headed. The CRA was a contributor as part of a larger government full court press via Fannie and Freddie to push lenders to make sub prime mortgages, which was one major, but not the only, factor in the financial melt down. Read Snowguy's stuff here on climate change, and some of the number cooking that has gone on, and new evidence that raises major questions about the CO2 = global warming edifice. Welfare did contribute to a perma-poverty class until Bill Clinton was effectively forced, kicking and screaming, to triangulate and sign off on welfare reform to secure his re-election. And so on.
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Torie
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 05:03:02 PM »

Well there are a lot of factual assertions there.  On "climate change" do you read snowguy's posts on the topic, and if you do, what do you think of them?

I was around to witness the AFDC cf, and the fix, which fix proved to be remarkably successful, and at least in that case, it was the "liberals" angst about it all being reformed, which proved to not be well taken.
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Torie
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 01:57:23 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2010, 05:21:53 PM by Torie »

I was around to witness the AFDC cf, and the fix, which fix proved to be remarkably successful, and at least in that case, it was the "liberals" angst about it all being reformed, which proved to not be well taken.

Appeal to self-expierence fallacy.....

And an especially absurd appeal in this case, as Torie has been privileged his whole life and never had any contact with poverty whatsoever.

It is not based on my personal experience actually (I never suggested that), but rather based on well, reading articles about the  welfare issue over time as it was all unfolding and thereafter. Believe it or not, I do actually read stuff. I hope that helps. Smiley

Oh, and one other little ministerial matter. I actually have had contact with poverty believe it or not. I lived in a very marginal neighborhood in Chicago, in two different apartment buildings which curiously enough, both had African American hookers either in my building or the one next door. Sometimes, in the wee hours of the morning, when the hookers closed up shop, guys with very loud and powerful voices would shout out their displeasure from the street, and wake my up. Pity I was too shy then to sample their services, but such is life. Oh, and one night, the four apartments on the first two floors who broken into and the residents  robbed at gun point, while I was playing bridge with my buddies in a third floor apartment. For some reason, the thugs didn't make it up to the third floor. And then there were the gun shots and the fire engines which I heard every night. I lived between 60th and 61st streets; south of 61st street was the neighborhood known as Woodlawn, which was essentially burned down while I lived there, dropping in population in 5 years from 70,000 to 20,000.  

I remember one night walking down with about 6 guys to a Chinese Restaurant on 63rd street, and it was like walking through a Fellini film. On the two blocks there must have been about 200 people on the streets (this was around 8 pm), all screwing or getting high or drunk, amid the garbage and the broken glass everywhere. Two years later nothing was left. It was all burned to the ground, everything, by Harry The Torch for the insurance money I suspect. I made it a point never to allow my parents to see where I lived, because they would have freaked out. I figured what they didn't know, wouldn't hurt them.

So now you know the rest of the story.  If interested, my next installment will be about living in the barrio in LA (which relatively speaking was a piece of cake compared to Chicago).

Cheers!
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