Is 2012 going to be like 1964 for Republicans?

[Oakvale]

Probably more like 1996, although it's certainly possible for Obama to substantially outperform as HCR grows in popularity and the economy begins to recover by 2012.

[Oakvale]

Anyone who thinks Obama will win by an additional 5% or more is kidding themselves. The man has done nothing for this country, and his approvals are declining throughout the presidency, which is something Bush II also had. The difference is that Obama did not have 9/11 nor a divisive election, but they both had a recession to begin the presidency. The ed of Bush II's recession did not help him.

Uh.

[Oakvale]

No, it will be like 1984 for the Democrats.

Where's one of you great maps?

Oh, there's 2012 according to greatest, just after nkpatel, forum predictor: Libertas:

Pffft, Gary Johnson carries Illinois against the socialist/fascist/other Obama. Only DC goes to Obama, by less than 1%.