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« on: April 11, 2010, 03:22:57 PM »

Let's say that Roosevelt does not die in 1919, and is in excellent health. He decides to run in 1920, and easily wins the nomination. He chooses Warren Harding of Ohio, a man he respects and who sponsored his effort to raise a legion in WWI. James M. Cox is nominated for the Democrats, and he chooses Governor Edward I. Edwards of New Jersey as his running mate.

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 03:30:24 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 03:33:19 PM »


Do you really think the progressive Roosevelt doing that welll in the solidly Democratic South?
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 03:36:23 PM »



Massive TR landslide.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2010, 04:18:47 PM »


I'm inclined to agree with this. How do popular vote percentages go? TR certainly breaks 60% and probably does better than Harding. Does TR get something like 61%, 62%, or 63%?

This would make a great timeline if someone wanted to do it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2010, 04:20:32 PM »


I'm inclined to agree with this. How do popular vote percentages go? TR certainly breaks 60% and probably does better than Harding. Does TR get something like 61%, 62%, or 63%?

This would make a great timeline if someone wanted to do it.

PV:

TR: 61.77%
Cox: 32.69%

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2010, 07:03:50 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 08:56:11 PM »


lolololololololol

Harding barely won one Southern State, and that was by luck, what would make you think Roosevelt, the even more so Progressive one than Cox, would do better in the Solid South?
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2010, 09:20:46 PM »


lolololololololol

Harding barely won one Southern State, and that was by luck, what would make you think Roosevelt, the even more so Progressive one than Cox, would do better in the Solid South?

lol, what can I say, I'm a bit of a TR hack.

I do see him winning closely in Oklahoma and Texas...the rest was "creativity".
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2010, 10:29:20 PM »

Did TR really admire Harding and had a close friendship with him in RL? I don't think I heard or read that anywhere before.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2010, 10:40:32 PM »

Did TR really admire Harding and had a close friendship with him in RL? I don't think I heard or read that anywhere before.

It is noted (In Wilson: A Life) that TR was grateful to Harding for sponsoring his failed attempt to raise a division to fight, and thus, it was speculated that TR wanted Harding to be his Veep in 1920.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2010, 10:46:46 PM »

Did TR really admire Harding and had a close friendship with him in RL? I don't think I heard or read that anywhere before.

It is noted (In Wilson: A Life) that TR was grateful to Harding for sponsoring his failed attempt to raise a division to fight, and thus, it was speculated that TR wanted Harding to be his Veep in 1920.

Very interesting. Thank you very much for telling me this. It intially came as a surprise because I read that Harding was little known outside of Ohio before 1920 (and even within the national GOP), so I found it interesting that such a prominent national GOP figure had such a close friendship and relationship with Harding.
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2010, 11:11:26 PM »

Did TR really admire Harding and had a close friendship with him in RL? I don't think I heard or read that anywhere before.

It is noted (In Wilson: A Life) that TR was grateful to Harding for sponsoring his failed attempt to raise a division to fight, and thus, it was speculated that TR wanted Harding to be his Veep in 1920.

Very interesting. Thank you very much for telling me this. It intially came as a surprise because I read that Harding was little known outside of Ohio before 1920 (and even within the national GOP), so I found it interesting that such a prominent national GOP figure had such a close friendship and relationship with Harding.

Well, it wasn't especially close, but he did (according to the book) greatly appreciate Harding's efforts.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 05:16:30 PM »

417 - 114
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 05:20:50 PM »



Roosevelt: 269
Cox: 262

Roosevelt wins in a narrow election because people don't want a third term President.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2010, 05:25:49 PM »



Roosevelt: 269
Cox: 262

Roosevelt wins in a narrow election because people don't want a third term President.

Hack map. 1920 was going to be a GOP year regardless of whom they nominated due to the 1920 recession and dissatisfaction with Wilson's foreign policy. FDR won his third and fourth terms in landslides, and since Teddy was very popular, had he lived, he would have also very liekly won a third term in a landslide in 1920.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2010, 05:54:37 PM »



Roosevelt/Harding- 441
Cox/Edwards- 90
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2010, 05:58:13 PM »



Roosevelt: 269
Cox: 262

Roosevelt wins in a narrow election because people don't want a third term President.

Hack map. 1920 was going to be a GOP year regardless of whom they nominated due to the 1920 recession and dissatisfaction with Wilson's foreign policy. FDR won his third and fourth terms in landslides, and since Teddy was very popular, had he lived, he would have also very liekly won a third term in a landslide in 1920.

It's pretty obvious due to the map that he's joking...I think...
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