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Home corporal punishment
 
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School corporal punishment
 
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Judicial corporal punishment
 
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« on: April 15, 2010, 04:58:57 PM »

I only favour corporal punishment at home. Basically, my position is the same as the UK's current laws on the matter.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 05:02:03 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 05:38:24 PM »

I only favour corporal punishment at home. Basically, my position is the same as the UK's current laws on the matter.

You reactionary freak.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 08:53:06 PM »

Home, within reason.

That is to say I believe a parent may give his/her child a slap on the tush, but not subject them to multiple lashes from a belt. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 09:01:19 PM »

At Home, with reasonable limitations.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 09:19:14 PM »

Home.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 09:22:14 PM »

Don't have a problem with any of these, in theory.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 09:44:43 PM »

Don't have a problem with any of these, in theory.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 10:13:38 PM »


Obviously not, because both of you are neocons in denial.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 10:19:27 PM »

None.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 10:24:45 PM »

None. Corporal punishment in schools is especially indefensible. Sadly, some "punishments" that are considered too cruel for criminals, can be used on schoolchildren.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 10:51:31 PM »


Obviously not, because both of you are neocons in denial.
Obviously...'cause only "neocons" (like us) like the idea of corporal punishment.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 03:01:27 AM »

Don't have a problem with any of these, in theory.

You don't have a problem with the government flogging criminals? Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 03:03:44 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 03:27:15 AM »

Don't have a problem with any of these, in theory.

You don't have a problem with the government flogging criminals? Tongue
As an option for certain crimes in lieu of a fine or minor jail time, hell yeah.  And by "option" I mean an option for the criminal, not the judge/courts.  Shoplifting, for example, could get you a fine or a few weeks in jail or a public flogging.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 03:28:10 AM »

Sounds rather medieval Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 03:30:03 AM »

So do Ren Fairs, but that doesn't mean we should outlaw them.
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 03:31:23 AM »

I don't see why a public flogging, with the consent of the criminal, would be a problem.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 03:45:42 AM »

Judicial corporal punishment in the USA would involve (mostly) whites flogging (a large number of) blacks, and that is too reminiscent of slavery for most people.

I don't understand why its still allowed in some schools but is not allowed on criminals. It should be the other way around, if it has to be allowed at all.

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 04:04:15 AM »

Judicial corporal punishment in the USA would involve (mostly) whites flogging (a large number of) blacks, and that is too reminiscent of slavery for most people.

Assuming it's with the consent of the criminal, why do you have to bring race into this discussion at all? And even if a court could simply hand out a punishment, why would the racial breakdown be any different than with prison sentences or capital punishment (which, granted, does indeed exist)?
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 04:17:28 AM »

I don't see why a public flogging, with the consent of the criminal, would be a problem.

One could argue that if a criminal is actually willing to give consent to it, that would indicate that he does not find it as bad as the other punishments, which could be seen as letting him off easy. Personally I don't think anyone should be allowed to choose their punishment.

That being said, I'm not entierly against corporal punishment being used as a judicial punishment instead of short periods of jail, but I don't think it should be done in public, and I definatley don't think people should have the option to opt out if it becomes a punishment.

Otherwise I'd count myself in the "at home with reasonable limitations" group.  
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 04:28:04 AM »

Judicial corporal punishment in the USA would involve (mostly) whites flogging (a large number of) blacks, and that is too reminiscent of slavery for most people.

Assuming it's with the consent of the criminal, why do you have to bring race into this discussion at all? And even if a court could simply hand out a punishment, why would the racial breakdown be any different than with prison sentences or capital punishment (which, granted, does indeed exist)?

Because I find the idea that the criminal would voluntarily choose that kind of sentence laughable, unless it was for a drastically shorter prison term, in which case society isn't going to benefit.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2010, 06:19:45 AM »

Judicial corporal punishment in the USA would involve (mostly) whites flogging (a large number of) blacks, and that is too reminiscent of slavery for most people.

Assuming it's with the consent of the criminal, why do you have to bring race into this discussion at all? And even if a court could simply hand out a punishment, why would the racial breakdown be any different than with prison sentences or capital punishment (which, granted, does indeed exist)?

Because I find the idea that the criminal would voluntarily choose that kind of sentence laughable, unless it was for a drastically shorter prison term, in which case society isn't going to benefit.

How is that relevant to my last question?
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 07:58:40 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 11:25:53 AM »

First option.
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