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Author Topic: Why does BRTD think South Park glorifies the smoking of tobacco?  (Read 7537 times)
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« on: April 23, 2010, 09:39:04 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_Out
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 09:53:18 PM »

Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it?

Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 09:56:35 PM »

Has he actually seen the episode or did he just read something about it?

Yes. I downloaded it because I read a lot of people on DU complaining about it.

I've not seen that on DU, but either way, why would you waste memory on right-wing propaganda?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination

I also once read an Ann Coulter book for largely the same reason. Granted I enjoyed that more due to the fact that it was at least funny, albeit unintentionally, while South Park tries to be funny yet fails miserably.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 09:57:50 PM »

I will say this though: There have been a few South Park episodes I've liked. Namely the ones making fun of Catholics, Scientologists and Mormons. I'd include the one making fun of Muslims and Mohammad too if it didn't also make fun of Family Guy.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 10:00:30 PM »

Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it?

I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous.

I don't like it when people make fun of stuff I like.

I actually find Beck rather dull, though people riffing on him and owning him is quite funny usually. Much like Bill O'Reilly, he's boring instead of hilarious like Coulter, but Al Franken's ownage of him in his book was much funnier than even Coulter's stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 10:02:01 PM »

His opinions on South Park are quite horrible, I'm afraid.

I liked it when I was in 8th grade. Then I developed taste.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2010, 10:02:58 PM »

Why do you care if someone makes fun of Family Guy, though? Do you own stock in it?

I might suggest Glenn Beck, if you are into watching and reading horrible thing because you find them humorous.

I don't like it when people make fun of stuff I like.

I actually find Beck rather dull, though people riffing on him and owning him is quite funny usually. Much like Bill O'Reilly, he's boring instead of hilarious like Coulter, but Al Franken's ownage of him in his book was much funnier than even Coulter's stuff.

Am I safe in assuming you hate Catholics and Mormons, then?

No. I do hate who those episodes skewered specifically though.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 10:05:16 PM »

BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco?

All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting.

I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 10:06:58 PM »

BRTD, do you hate all tobacco or just Big Tobacco?

All of it. I find it disgusting. I was quite overjoyed when Minnesota banned it in public and I no longer have to return from bars with my clothes smelling disgusting.

I'm quite glad that at the house I lived in in the first half of 2008, my roommates let people smoke weed anywhere, but anyone smoking cigarettes had to go the garage or outside.

I just don't get how smoking tobacco is so "disgusting" but smoking weed is perfect.

It doesn't smell as bad or give you cancer.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2010, 10:07:54 PM »

I am actually watching this right and laughing my ass off: http://www.hulu.com/watch/139646/family-guy-april-in-quahog
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2010, 01:45:16 PM »

My biggest problem overall with South Park is actually that it's very similar to the monstrosities created by Friedberg and Seltzer. OMG CELEBRITY REFERENCE HOW FUNNY!
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2010, 11:53:27 PM »

Family Guy uses celebrity jokes and the like, but only as quick cutaways usually. And there's also actually a joke there. South Park basically expects you to roll on the floor laughing because they have a crude caricature of Paris Hilton or whatever onscreen, aka exactly what Friedberg and Seltzer do.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 11:27:12 PM »

OK I found out that the episode is streaming on Netflix. I'll watch it again. Starting right now.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 11:35:05 PM »

Holy f**k this is Anvilicious. Even worse than I remembered. Why not make the parents remotely realistic instead of thin strawmen? And I'm only about 6 minutes in.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 11:37:06 PM »

OMG ROB REINER COMPLAINS ABOUT TOBACCO WHILE HE EATS BIG MACS THAT ARE ALSO UNHEALTHY! LOLZ THAT IS SO IRONIC! HE'S A HYPOCRITE, LULZ LULZ LULZ.

And this crap has been around for 14 years now. Sad
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2010, 11:39:24 PM »

...and now smoking is banned in bars in Colorado! Haha, great.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2010, 11:43:49 PM »

Uh yeah the tobacco company employees are like mindless robots who love their jobs and just sing all day about how great it is. And the anti-tobacco people are all evil zombies. Yeah really balanced.

It wouldn't be so bad if they caricatured the tobacco companies fairly too...
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2010, 11:47:52 PM »

So apparently anti-tobacco people kill innocent people just to make their anti-smoking points more valid. Except that doesn't happen. So what exactly is the point being made?
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2010, 11:50:56 PM »

OK so it's over. It's still very stupid and I didn't laugh once.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2010, 11:51:46 PM »

I'm now going to watch a Family Guy episode to cleanse myself of that crap and enjoy something that's actually funny.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2010, 11:58:57 PM »

This episode is arguably pro-life (It shows Stewie being conscious and aware in the womb.) yet I'm not offended because I've actually laughed at a rate of more than once a minute. Unlike South Park.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2010, 12:02:18 AM »

Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2010, 12:07:56 AM »

"Hey Lois look! The two symbols of the Republican Party: An elephant and a big, fat white guy whose threatened by change!"

Hahahaha that never gets old. That alone is funnier than the entire series of South Park combined.
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2010, 09:46:05 PM »

My reason for considering Pulp Fiction to be Christian propaganda has nothing to do with the Bible verse. Rather it's because of the message of seeking redemption and being given a second chance by God. Samuel L Jackson takes and accepts this, John Travolta doesn't, and we see what happens to him.
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2010, 12:25:58 AM »

The episode was quite idiotic in how ridiculously one-sided it was (the tobacco employees singing about how such a wonderful job it was, please, that doesn't glorify tobacco?) and how insanely Anvilicious it was with the idiotic caricature of Rob Reiner and the whole "LULZ HE'S EATING UNHEALTHY FOOD WHILE CONDEMNING SMOKING, HYPOCRITE!" nonsense which was about as subtle as the typical "joke" in a Friedberg and Seltzer "film". And when have anti-tobacco people ever murdered someone just to make a point in an ad? Yeah if you have to resort to a stupid strawman you've kind of lost the argument. Oh and smoking is now banned in bars in Colorado, kind of invalidating one of the points.

The episode was incredibly retarded and I didn't laugh once.
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