Deregistration of Banned Members Bill [LAW'D]

[Bacon King]

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Sponsor: bgwah

Just a note everybody, let's try to get through this before the next Senate gets in on Friday

Pick whatever slot you want for this bill, there's plenty of empty space on the noticeboard.

[tmthforu94]

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I'm rather confused on what the purpose of this section is. If an account is banned, they cannot post, so they can't re-register. Are you referring to them just creating a new account and registering on it?

[Bacon King]

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I'm rather confused on what the purpose of this section is. If an account is banned, they cannot post, so they can't re-register. Are you referring to them just creating a new account and registering on it?

Some bans are for a certain amount of time only. Rarely happens, but the administrative option exists to Dave.

[tmthforu94]

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I'm rather confused on what the purpose of this section is. If an account is banned, they cannot post, so they can't re-register. Are you referring to them just creating a new account and registering on it?

Some bans are for a certain amount of time only. Rarely happens, but the administrative option exists to Dave.

So, let me get this straight...
A citizen is banned for, let's say, a month. When he can finally post, he cannot rejoin the game. However, if Dave manually unbans someone, they can rejoin?

[bgwah]

Incorrect. It prohibits a banned member from simply re-registering with a new account.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This bill has my 100% support. I might even have prevented Xahar from coming back has it been in place.

[tmthforu94]

Incorrect. It prohibits a banned member from simply re-registering with a new account.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.
This bill has my unwavering support.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Incorrect. It prohibits a banned member from simply re-registering with a new account.

That doesn't work either. As far as atlasia is concerned the new account is considered a "new" citizen.

[bgwah]

This bill has my 100% support. I might even have prevented Xahar from coming back has it been in place.

As much as he deserved it, he was not banned. He was simply put on post moderation, IIRC. Perhaps I need to clarify to avoid confusion...

Incorrect. It prohibits a banned member from simply re-registering with a new account.

That doesn't work either. As far as atlasia is concerned the new account is considered a "new" citizen.

Link? And why is it currently okay for it to be a crime to have two accounts registered if that is the case?

[Hans-im-Glück]

This bill has my support.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This bill has my 100% support. I might even have prevented Xahar from coming back has it been in place.

As much as he deserved it, he was not banned. He was simply put on post moderation, IIRC. Perhaps I need to clarify to avoid confusion...

Incorrect. It prohibits a banned member from simply re-registering with a new account.

That doesn't work either. As far as atlasia is concerned the new account is considered a "new" citizen.

Link? And why is it currently okay for it to be a crime to have two accounts registered if that is the case?

Its a crime because we can prove that the "same" RL person registered those accounts via IP address. Whereas If you have someone banned and they create a new account they are not considered the same person in Atlasia. You would have to ban people from creating accounts from that IP (which causes a problem) or in some other way change the language to get around this interpretation/precedent whatever you call it.

I am not an expert on these matters so I suggest you talk to someone who would know more about it.

[Fritz]

I would consider it a personal favor if the Senate could pass this forthwith.

As far as banned individuals coming back under new accounts, we have a registered voter that is widely known this is the case (Vane).  This bill has no language that would allow me to de-register him.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would consider it a personal favor if the Senate could pass this forthwith.

As far as banned individuals coming back under new accounts, we have a registered voter that is widely known this is the case (Vane).  This bill has no language that would allow me to de-register him.

What language do you need to deregister him?

[Fritz]

I don't know....like you said, its a difficult legal area, as the sock is considered a new person.

I suppose under current law, Vane could be tried for voter fraud.  To do this, the AG would have to prove that Vane is Hamilton- which, if it is done, gets him banned anyway, same as segwaystyle.

Hamilton must be getting good at this. 

[bgwah]

I could try revising the bill if someone provided a link to this "new person" stuff...

[live free or die]

I'm not a registered voter, so good luck prosecuting me.

[Fritz]

I'm not a registered voter, so good luck prosecuting me.

You registered January 24 and again on February 6, and you voted in February.

I'm the RG and I know who the registered voters are.

[live free or die]

I'm not a registered voter, so good luck prosecuting me.

You registered January 24 and again on February 6, and you voted in February.

I'm the RG and I know who the registered voters are.

The HAEV de-registered me, though. Was my registration restored?

[Fritz]

Yes, I would think you would know that.

[live free or die]

Yes, I would think you would know that.

I was gone for a long time. I don't keep up.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This bill has my 100% support. I might even have prevented Xahar from coming back has it been in place.

As much as he deserved it, he was not banned. He was simply put on post moderation, IIRC. Perhaps I need to clarify to avoid confusion...

No actually he was banned for 60 days. The bill as I understand it would've banned him from re-registering under a new account for those 60 days, but he did have a valid registration after he returned.

Good bill too.

[Badger]

Having re-read this a few times, I support this.

[Bacon King]

Ok, this bill is now open for a final vote. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

[Badger]

AYE.

[tmthforu94]

Aye