Will Joe Biden run in 2016?

[Bo]

In asking this question, I am assuming that Obama is reelected and serves out two full terms.

I'd say No. He is too old and his time has passed.

[justW353]

No, but I think he could deflect the age issue if he decided to.

[rbt48]

He'd turn 74 in Nov 2016.  There are too many qualified Democrats in the stable waiting to run for him to be a plausible candidate.

[Bo]

No, but I think he could deflect the age issue if he decided to.

McCain couldn't deflect the age issue.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What if Obama and Biden are re-elected in 2012 and somewhere in middle of his second term Obama dies in office, thus making Biden an incumbent?

What about such possibility?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

He is too old and his time has passed.

*facepalm*

[Derek]

I hope that would be hilarious. Hey, stand up Chuck!

[Derek]

No, but I think he could deflect the age issue if he decided to.

McCain couldn't deflect the age issue.

McCain's age wasn't what cost him the 2008 election. It was more Bush's approval rating over Iraq and the economy. The housing market struck as an issue and gas prices were still high.

[Bo]

What if Obama and Biden are re-elected in 2012 and somewhere in middle of his second term Obama dies in office, thus making Biden an incumbent?

What about such possibility?

In asking this question, I am assuming that Obama is reelected and serves out two full terms.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What if Obama and Biden are re-elected in 2012 and somewhere in middle of his second term Obama dies in office, thus making Biden an incumbent?

What about such possibility?

In asking this question, I am assuming that Obama is reelected and serves out two full terms.

I'm trying to discuss other possibilities without making new thread and thus making moderators angry

[Derek]

Well I wonder if Obama would try to say Biden is too old like he did with McCain. Oh that's right it wasn't really about age, it was about getting himself elected to office.

[Bo]

What if Obama and Biden are re-elected in 2012 and somewhere in middle of his second term Obama dies in office, thus making Biden an incumbent?

What about such possibility?

In asking this question, I am assuming that Obama is reelected and serves out two full terms.

I'm trying to discuss other possibilities without making new thread and thus making moderators angry

In that case, I think Biden will run in 2016 if hillary doesn't. I'm not sure about 2020 though (assuming Biden wins in 2016).

[Derek]

Biden is unelectable.

[Bo]

Biden is unelectable.

That's what they said about Reagan and Obama.

[Bull Moose Base]

Despite the traditional position of the VP, Hillary Clinton is probably way more likely than Biden to take the role of torchbearer for the Administration (though she'll probably step down from State even if Obama is re-elected).  If she doesn't run and Obama is popular, Biden is fairly likely to run saying he'd only serve a single term.  If Obama isn't so popular, he won't run.  I could see someone like Schweitzer or Feingold doing well in such circumstances, running as a departure from the previous administration's policies.

[Derek]

Biden is unelectable.

That's what they said about Reagan and Obama.

Yes now compare them to Biden in terms of carisma and political base. Plus, Reagan and Obama's gaffes never stuck with them. Biden........

[Tuck!]

Biden is unelectable.

That's what they said about Reagan and Obama.

Yes now compare them to Biden in terms of carisma and political base. Plus, Reagan and Obama's gaffes never stuck with them. Biden........

Biden got selected and elected despite his gaffes.

[Derek]

not as president

[HappyWarrior]

Well I wonder if Obama would try to say Biden is too old like he did with McCain. Oh that's right it wasn't really about age, it was about getting himself elected to office.

No one EVER said ANYTHING about McCain's age in the Obama campaign that I remember.

[Bull Moose Base]

Well I wonder if Obama would try to say Biden is too old like he did with McCain. Oh that's right it wasn't really about age, it was about getting himself elected to office.

No one EVER said ANYTHING about McCain's age in the Obama campaign that I remember.

In fact, I distinctly remember footage of a rally where someone in the crowd yelled out "He's old!" about McCain and Obama stopped his speech to push back and say McCain's age was no reason to oppose him but his policies are.

On the other hand, if Rubio wins his senate race, you'll immediately hear many of the same people who warned Obama was too inexperienced suggest Rubio should run for president.

On 2016, while the Tea Party screams about Obama's "radical socialism" there's actually growing disappointment in Obama among progressives that he's too moderate and traditional a politician.  People like Blanche Lincoln block a Public Option and now Obama cuts an ad for her.  He throws the GOP a bone with a call for more off-shore drilling and we get an environmental disaster.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2016 Democratic primary be a reaction to that disappointment in some way (a mirror image of sorts of purists getting more control of the GOP).  I could see Obama letdown after high expectations create fertile ground for someone like Russ Feingold or Alan Grayson, who would have the track record to credibly campaign as a genuine reformer.

[Derek]

He hinted at it late in the primaries and backed down.

[cpeeks]

LOL he would be 77 years old by the  time of the inaguration

[Bo]

LOL he would be 77 years old by the  time of the inaguration

No, he would be 74.

[Derek]

I hope so. I'd love to run against him in 2020.

[President Mitt]

I hope so. I'd love to run against him in 2020.

I don't think you're going to be getting anywhere anytime soon.