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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2010, 03:58:31 AM »

Yea the terrorists are going to find ways into our country or could coordinate through the internet. Look we can't secure our borders entirely unless you are suggesting we put up a shield and get the Jedi Knights to protect us.

The best we can do is stop giving them a reason to fly planes into our buildings.

There is never a reason to fly a plane (full of people) into a large building (full of people).

9/11 didn't just happen for no reason at all.  Contrary to popular belief, they do not "hate us for our freedoms."  They hate us because we felt it was our right to meddle in the Middle East for our own benefit.  If Russia were to overthrow Britain's democratically elected government, and replace it with a puppet king, and then kill half a million French children through sanctions, I'm sure there would be a lot of Europeans who would be frustrated enough to fly a plane into a building in Moscow.

I'm sorry, what democratically elected government are we talking about exactly?
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2010, 12:13:35 PM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

     So? Does the fact that you wouldn't tell a group of people about a position you hold because it would draw their ire make that position incorrect?

No it just makes YOU anti-semitic and a nazi sympathizer. Go through a week of concentration camp and come back with the same position. I hear Al-Qaida runs similar camps for non-believers in the middle east.
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2010, 02:10:40 PM »

I know I say this alot, but essentialism should be illegal.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2010, 05:16:49 PM »

what are you referring to exactly?
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2010, 05:27:06 PM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

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Anybody with half a brain (who wasn't already pre-influenced) would have opposed World War II prior to Pearl Harbor.

It would have been a waste of time and money (and lives) to liberate Europe when the Soviets were holding their own.  The war would have went a bit longer, but the Soviets eventually would have won.

I would have supported intervention, FYI, as I was pre-influenced.
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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2010, 03:05:16 AM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

     So? Does the fact that you wouldn't tell a group of people about a position you hold because it would draw their ire make that position incorrect?

No it just makes YOU anti-semitic and a nazi sympathizer. Go through a week of concentration camp and come back with the same position. I hear Al-Qaida runs similar camps for non-believers in the middle east.

     No, not really. There was much more to the war than just the holocaust. I wouldn't say that taking a moral stance against wars of offense makes one an anti-semite.
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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2010, 06:14:52 AM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

     So? Does the fact that you wouldn't tell a group of people about a position you hold because it would draw their ire make that position incorrect?

No it just makes YOU anti-semitic and a nazi sympathizer. Go through a week of concentration camp and come back with the same position. I hear Al-Qaida runs similar camps for non-believers in the middle east.

     No, not really. There was much more to the war than just the holocaust. I wouldn't say that taking a moral stance against wars of offense makes one an anti-semite.

How was WWII a war of offense for the US?
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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2010, 09:24:23 AM »

yea who asked that?
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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2010, 07:52:29 PM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

     So? Does the fact that you wouldn't tell a group of people about a position you hold because it would draw their ire make that position incorrect?

No it just makes YOU anti-semitic and a nazi sympathizer. Go through a week of concentration camp and come back with the same position. I hear Al-Qaida runs similar camps for non-believers in the middle east.

     No, not really. There was much more to the war than just the holocaust. I wouldn't say that taking a moral stance against wars of offense makes one an anti-semite.

How was WWII a war of offense for the US?

     Liberation of France? Operation Torch? Nuking Hiroshima?
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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2010, 09:31:37 PM »


Yeah, I'll let that pass without comment, allowing you to fully understand the full glory of your moral superiority over the rest of us.
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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2010, 09:59:16 PM »


Yeah, I'll let that pass without comment, allowing you to fully understand the full glory of your moral superiority over the rest of us.

     Not all wars of offense are morally equal. I hesitated to mention that as an example, since it's clearly not bad at all as far as offensive military operations go.
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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2010, 02:18:32 PM »

WWII was necessary and brought the world together. It's unfortunate that wars happen, but they are sometimes inevitable as we are all only humans and some humans do terrible things.
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2010, 02:25:00 PM »

WWII was necessary and brought the world together. It's unfortunate that wars happen, but they are sometimes inevitable as we are all only humans and some humans do terrible things.
Lol, the war divided the world like never before in history.
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2010, 09:40:02 PM »

WWII was necessary and brought the world together. It's unfortunate that wars happen, but they are sometimes inevitable as we are all only humans and some humans do terrible things.
Lol, the war divided the world like never before in history.

You'd rather have Hitler unite the world under tyranny?
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2010, 12:46:29 AM »

WWII was necessary and brought the world together. It's unfortunate that wars happen, but they are sometimes inevitable as we are all only humans and some humans do terrible things.
Lol, the war divided the world like never before in history.

You'd rather have Hitler unite the world under tyranny?

The Soviets and Nazis would have destroyed each other on their own.
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2010, 05:43:39 AM »

You're extreme too. ^^ Go for diplomacy first and war is the last option, but must be an option. Also when dealing with those who think they will only go to heaven if they kill the infidels, war is often the only option. It's a sad part of life. I don't like war, but it is necessary under unfortunate and extreme circumstances.

Unfortunately, none of the wars the U.S. has fought were justified.

lolnazisymapthizer

Opposing the war doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.

Don't tell me if you opposed WWII. Tell the Jews. Go on now. Go ahead and do it. You won't say that to them. You won't do it.

     So? Does the fact that you wouldn't tell a group of people about a position you hold because it would draw their ire make that position incorrect?

No it just makes YOU anti-semitic and a nazi sympathizer. Go through a week of concentration camp and come back with the same position. I hear Al-Qaida runs similar camps for non-believers in the middle east.

     No, not really. There was much more to the war than just the holocaust. I wouldn't say that taking a moral stance against wars of offense makes one an anti-semite.

How was WWII a war of offense for the US?

     Liberation of France? Operation Torch? Nuking Hiroshima?

That's not really relevant, with the relevant point being that the US was attacked. You cannot seriously mean that you think offensive operations in a war of defense are unjustifiable?
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2010, 06:21:16 AM »

I'm hoping he was just frustrated by the troll.
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« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2010, 02:23:03 PM »

WWII was necessary and brought the world together. It's unfortunate that wars happen, but they are sometimes inevitable as we are all only humans and some humans do terrible things.
Lol, the war divided the world like never before in history.

You'd rather have Hitler unite the world under tyranny?

The Soviets and Nazis would have destroyed each other on their own.

So you'd want to be united under the Nazis or Soviets than have you independence. Look to have things like freedom, some things must be sacrificed and those who sacrificed their lives were proud to do so. No one wanted to be united under the Nazis or the Soviets and your thought that they'd destroy each other is wishful thinking and a cop out.
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