Why would one support a united Ireland if they are not Catholic?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'm just asking because this makes little sense but there seem to be lots of such people here.

[Verily]

I suppose because the Protestant presence in Northern Ireland is blatantly imperialist from a historical perspective. I mean, there's no defense for the Plantation of Ulster, regardless of your position otherwise.

[minionofmidas]

Most Ulster Presbyterians are not descended from the Plantation, anyways.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Most Ulster Presbyterians are not descended from the Plantation, anyways.

Not to mention that happened so long ago as to be relevant today. Might as well mention Oliver Cromwell.

[Verily]

Most Ulster Presbyterians are not descended from the Plantation, anyways.

Not to mention that happened so long ago as to be relevant today. Might as well mention Oliver Cromwell.

Well, he was nasty, too.

One could say the same of the Trail of Tears. Yet you seem to have a lot of sympathy for Native Americans.

[Bo]

No. I oppose a united Ireland because the Protestants in Northern Ireland oppose it. If there are any very heavy Catholic areas in Northern Ireland, those can be given to the Republic of Ireland, but the rest should remain a part of the U.K.

[useful idiot]

The idea seems pretty silly now. The UK and Ireland are both fairly well off liberal countries. Being in either is a good thing, so I don't understand the gripes of the nationalists or the unionists in this debate. I can understand why the Protestants had a seige mentality that caused them to do the things they did(although not really excusable), and I understand why the Catholics turned to violence as a means of fighting oppression(again, not particularly excusable). These questions should have been put to rest this past decade, but for some reason the electorate decided to jump to the two more extreme parties instead of the UUP and SDLP. Frankly I think it should just be that Ulster democratically decide which country they should be a part of, and that be that. Right now they would continue to be a part of the UK, possibly due to demographic changes they'll choose Ireland later.

The only real reason I can give for staying part of the UK is that Britain's economy is probably more structurally sound, and that transferring the entire government administration in NI would probably be a gigantic headache.

[k-onmmunist]

For the same reasons people support mass expulsion of the Jewish people from Israel.

[minionofmidas]

Frankly I think it should just be that Ulster democratically decide which country they should be a part of, and that be that. Right now they would continue to be a part of the UK, possibly due to demographic changes they'll choose Ireland later.

Actually...

for some reason the electorate decided to jump to the two more extreme parties instead of the UUP and SDLP.

SF's fortunes dipped in the years before Good Friday. The party then did what the voters wanted, and are being rewarded.
As to UUP and DUP, the issues are of course far more complex. For one thing, UUP is far more "British" in outlook.

[Хahar 🤔]

Because I oppose imperialism and particularly English imperialism.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Becasue I oppose imperialism

[Democratic Hawk]

I'm thinking of going to Dublin, so I bought an AA guide and among the ten landmarks in the city are Christ Church Cathedral (a stronghold of the Protestant faith), St Patrick's Cathedral (Ireland's largest church, which is also Protestant) and Trinity College (also linked to the Church of Ireland) in an overwhelmingly Catholic city and country

As for the Ulster's Scots, who are Presbyterian, didn't they just return home to Ulster?

Anyway, I support the reunification of Ireland should a majority of all the six counties favour reunification

[Democratic Hawk]

And I'd feel the same way if I did decide to convert to Catholicism. I'm C of E, but my late father was Catholic

[Democratic Hawk]

And at the end of the day, whether Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox they are all Christians ... but some are more Chrisian than others

[Cubby]

Someone mentioned your dislike of Ireland in another thread BRTD. Is it just because of their social conservatism or is it something else?

A united Ireland would look nicer on the map, but I have mixed feelings on the issue. I'd like for Ireland to be united but I also don't want the UK to get any smaller.

[minionofmidas]

Someone mentioned your dislike of Ireland in another thread BRTD. Is it just because of their social conservatism or is it something else?

A united Ireland would look nicer on the map, but I have mixed feelings on the issue. I'd like for Ireland to be united but I also don't want the UK to get any smaller.

It wouldn't be the UK anymore. It'd be Great Britain.

(Btw, I'm not at all sure I support a united Ireland. I'm fine with Northern Irish independence with some sort of guarantor function for Ireland and Britain... which is sort of what we already got anyways.)

[Cubby]

It wouldn't be the UK anymore. It'd be Great Britain.

(Btw, I'm not at all sure I support a united Ireland. I'm fine with Northern Irish independence with some sort of guarantor function for Ireland and Britain... which is sort of what we already got anyways.)

I wouldn't support NI independence. It can stay with Great Britain or it can join Ireland, there's no reason for independence.

[minionofmidas]

It's a place unlike anywhere else. Reason enough.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's also worth pointing out that it was effectively independent until the 1970s.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I think you'll find BRTD (with your miniscule warped-John Fordesque view of Ireland) that most Catholics here do not approve of a United Ireland. Not only that but while there is a tribal identification with both religious groups in the north (and here too, to a small extent) it would be wrong to see this identification as religious in nature even if it is religious in origin. How many members of the PIRA, UVF, UFF, INLA, etc were regular church goes? Do I really need to answer that question?