Should birthright citizenship include children of illegals?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I favor repeal of the 14 Amendment and the abolition of federal citizenship. That would solve the problem.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes.

I couldn't think of anything more UnAmerican than denying a child born on American soil American citizenship.

     Agreed. I would suggest relaxing restrictions on immigration, which would greatly reduce the problem of anchor babies.

There is already too much immigration, legal and illegal, into the United States.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes.

I couldn't think of anything more UnAmerican than denying a child born on American soil American citizenship.

     Agreed. I would suggest relaxing restrictions on immigration, which would greatly reduce the problem of anchor babies.

There is already too much immigration, legal and illegal, into the United States.

There can never be too much immigration.
The United States wouldn't exist without immigrants.  Immigrants are the lifeblood of the United States.

The United States is not the developing nation it once was. We don't need immigrants anymore, and in fact, we take in way too many.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Yes.

I couldn't think of anything more UnAmerican than denying a child born on American soil American citizenship.

     Agreed. I would suggest relaxing restrictions on immigration, which would greatly reduce the problem of anchor babies.

There is already too much immigration, legal and illegal, into the United States.

There can never be too much immigration.
The United States wouldn't exist without immigrants.  Immigrants are the lifeblood of the United States.

The United States is not the developing nation it once was. We don't need immigrants anymore, and in fact, we take in way too many.

How libertarian of you Libertas, to take the position that says "sorry buddy, no more immigrants allowed.  We're already at our quota."
For me there is no negotiation on the non-aggression principle, we don't use thugs with guns to deny people entry to the US.  Turning back immigrants is a statist policy.

Under a society governed by the non-aggression principle, then every piece of property would be privately owned and individual owners would decide who could and could not enter their property.

Under the current system, if 'we the people' own the country, it is our right to determine who can and cannot enter our property.

Government-enforced open borders is not a libertarian position.

"On rethinking immigration on the basis of the anarcho-capitalist model, it became clear to me that a totally privatized country would not have "open borders" at all. If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no immigrant could enter there unless invited to enter and allowed to rent, or purchase, property. A totally privatized country would be as "closed" as the particular inhabitants and property owners desire. It seems clear, then, that the regime of open borders that exists de facto in the U.S. really amounts to a compulsory opening by the central state, the state in charge of all streets and public land areas, and does not genuinely reflect the wishes of the proprietors."
--Murray N. Rothbard, Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation-State

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Countries with birthright citizenship:

Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Azerbaijan
Barbados
Belize
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Colombia
Dominica
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Grenada
Guatemala
Guyana
Honduras
Jamaica
Lesotho
Mexico
Nicaragua
Pakistan
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Saint Christopher and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela

The US and Canada are the only two developed countries in the world that have it.

Most developed nations have at least some integrity, that's why. The U.S. has none.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Countries with birthright citizenship:

Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Azerbaijan
Barbados
Belize
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Colombia
Dominica
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Grenada
Guatemala
Guyana
Honduras
Jamaica
Lesotho
Mexico
Nicaragua
Pakistan
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Saint Christopher and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela

The US and Canada are the only two developed countries in the world that have it.

Most developed nations have at least some integrity, that's why. The U.S. has none.

So Israel has some integrity? Weren't you just bashing them for deporting children who were born there?

No, I was bashing them for deporting children because they were the wrong race.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.

I don't think he understands any of the trash he writes.

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.  There's no going around that.

Well the 14th amendment can be repealed or amended...