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« on: June 18, 2010, 10:42:25 PM »

Ah, the collective stupidity of the American people.

Or perhaps some are realizing it's not the end of the world as was implied by the heavily critical media coverage.

Ignoring the fact that it doesn't take effect until like, 2014.

There are parts taking effect this year. I'm sure anyone with kids under 25 is in favor now.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 10:47:32 PM »

Most Americans already buy health insurance, so it just means they get subsidized. Still a win.

Morgan: you do realize that I am currently someone who does not buy health insurance by complete choice, and yet I still support the law regardless?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 11:00:18 PM »

Most Americans already buy health insurance, so it just means they get subsidized. Still a win.

Except they are doing so by their own choice, not by government coercion.

But they get subsidized for just doing something they're doing anyway. Where's the loss? Let's say the government passed a law requiring everyone to spend $x at a strip club every year but they would send you a check for that amount of money. Do you think I would be bothered by this law?

And once again, I am one person who is voluntarily not buying health insurance yet am now being "coerced" to do so. And I support the law. What does that say?
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 11:04:42 PM »

Most Americans already buy health insurance, so it just means they get subsidized. Still a win.

Except they are doing so by their own choice, not by government coercion.

But they get subsidized for just doing something they're doing anyway. Where's the loss? Let's say the government passed a law requiring everyone to spend $x at a strip club every year but they would send you a check for that amount of money. Do you think I would be bothered by this law?

You wouldn't, but an asexual prude like me certainly would.

That's not the point. The question is why would I care about the government giving me money to do something I already do?

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On the flip-side, there are a lot of people who do voluntarily buy health insurance, who oppose this bill.

Which is idiotic, since all that bill means for them is that they get subsidized to buy it now. It's basically free money for them.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 11:10:05 PM »

How is free money incompatible with liberty?
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 11:13:26 PM »


That's not the issue.  It's people being forced to buy health insurance.  Forced.

But who cares if you're being forced to do something you're doing anyway? I wouldn't be bothered by the government forcing people to visit strip clubs.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 11:24:04 PM »

If the government is subsidizing their strip club visits, what's the problem?
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 11:27:21 PM »

My point is if people are forced to visit strip clubs but their visits are subsidized, what's the problem and who is hurt?
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2010, 11:29:08 PM »

My point is if people are forced to visit strip clubs but their visits are subsidized, what's the problem and who is hurt?

The people who don't want to be forced to visit strip clubs.

Well I'm not one of them. I am one of the people who doesn't want to buy health insurance, but I still support the law in question.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2010, 11:31:06 PM »

My point is if people are forced to visit strip clubs but their visits are subsidized, what's the problem and who is hurt?

The people who don't want to be forced to visit strip clubs.

Well I'm not one of them.

Then you have a selfish disregard for other people's freedoms.

But you've never answered my point about me supporting the law despite currently not buying health insurance by choice.
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