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minionofmidas
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« on: November 02, 2004, 08:19:56 AM »

Might I suggest we get back to the Dunn constitutional proposal? Wink
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2004, 08:34:03 AM »

One big problem is the eleventh-hour invention of the moderator, which changed the rules very much. Another problem is that clause in the Civil Liberties amendment. The thing has several highly problematic clauses, this being one of them. Its defects (some of them) were discussed but people agreed that it was on balance a good thing. Stuff in there should really have been voted on clause by clause, would have made for a far superior law. Also, bills used to get changed a lot between proposal and passage in the early days of the Senate, something bad's happened since. Basically the third Senate did much more work than its predecessors but also work of much inferior quality.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2004, 05:15:11 AM »

Also, the regions were created by the Feds in our case. This isnay America.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2004, 02:57:29 PM »

What's the point of having Regions if we aren't going to explore the issue of co-sovereignity?  We certainly don't have enough people to have State governments, but with the inititaive process all of our Regions use so that the Regional legislature is the people, I think we have enough people to support Regional government.  That said, this decision threw out the baby with the bathwater, so we need to adopt a new baby soon.
The idea was to have an additional office to run for, give some more semblance to the US.
That was really the whole idea behind the Senate, too...there once was a proposal that every registered voter would be considered a Representative unless elected or appointed to something else.
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