Random international maps thread

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I often tend to make maps of random interesting elections around the world when I feel like it. So instead of littering this place with a thread for each country, I'll lump them all in this place.

I finished this interesting map of the 2008 Spanish elections in Euskadi.



the last red on the key is Aralar.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Explain patterns! Explain patterns!

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Explain patterns! Explain patterns!

PSOE (uh, sorry, PSE-'EE') won the major towns of Vitoria, Bilbao and San Sebastian (and won overall in all 3 provinces and the overall CAPV). The left bank of Bilbao, which is deep red, is very working-class and industrial (with lots of non-Basque immigrants from the 60s-70s). There's also old iron communities around there. PNV won the right bank but PP did very well (came a close second in Getxo, a very wealthy suburb of Bilbao). Bizkaya province, outside Bilbao and Abadino/Ermua (mostly metallurgical areas), is rural-conservative-Basque, providing the PNV's base. The area around Gernika is also basically old Basque heartland. Guipuzcoa province is also deeply nationalist, and was the best province for Batasuna (when it ran) and left-nationalist movements such as EA or Aralar. The large Basque cooperatives (Mondragon) in metallurgical areas explains that a lot. Though these areas seem to have split between PNV and PSE-EE (which has an element of Vasquismo or whatever to it), most mayors in that area are from the banned EAE-ANV (a socialist nationalist party, now banned). San Sebastian and its surrounding are very industrial, and also have lots of non-Basque migrants. Irun, the deep red town on the French border, looks like a New Town-type industrial area (Hendaye in France is also industrial and a PS stronghold. The French Basque Country traditionally voted for the right, while the Protestant Bearn voted for the left.

The south of the CAPV, the province of Araba, is the least Basque area and thus the PNV's worst province. The string of PP communities along the Rioja border are likely all Castillian areas in practice.

I'm doing Navarra and it's quite interesting. I will likely do Aragon after that, it's a region which I'm rather politically-sociologically clueless about.

[Shilly]

Thank you for this thread! I'll try to contribute something here later today.

[Shilly]

And here it is. This map is of Chile's 2000 Presidential Election in the 2nd round.



Open in a new window for larger version.

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Excellent stuff. Surprised at the amount of blue, you'd think it was the 2010 map.

Anyways, here is Navarra:



Nafarroa Bai (Navarre Yes) is the coalition of Basque parties which favour the reunification of Navarre with the CAPV. It includes the PNV, EA and Batasuna. Compare the strong points of Nafarroa Bai with this map.

Anyways, Navarra is most certainly very conservative but not Castillian at any rate. This was a Carlist stronghold, it has a special status of fiscal autonomy, and maintains the name 'foral community' in reference to the Medieval fueros (or laws) whose preservation was at the root of the Carlist uprising. The right in Navarre is the Navarrese People's Union (UPN), which is fiscally centrist and favours strong decentralization unlike the PP, although both parties were sister parties until 2008 when the UPN voted Zapatero's budget. The UPN last ran separately from the PP at the local level in 1983 and 1987 and both times the UPN was the largest party. Navarre is regionalist, Euskadi is nationalist (yes, France, there's a difference).

The UPN seems to have won the mountain regions which stretch, iirc, from the southern tip of the Basque border up to the border with France running in a diagonal line across the state. The south is more flat, likely more agricultural. I don't know why southern Navarre and Aragon are Socialist areas, but my personal guess, likely all wrong, is some sort of rural activism or agricultural unionization movement of some sort; like we've seen in France.

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Nobody gives a sh**t, but I found cool maps:

Czech(oslovak) election 1935



SDP was Heinlein's Nazi Party, the CSDSD was the Czech social democratic party, RSZML was an agrarian party based in big farms and wealthy Bohemian agrarians, KSC were the commies, CSL were the Christiandems, CSNS is the oldest Czech party which was originally Czech nationalist-socialist during the KuK, AB was a Slovak outfit, NarSj I don't know about but seems to be vaguely Czech nationalistic.

CSL was largely Moravian partly because Moravia has always been poorer and more clerical than Bohemia (which also explains why the agrarians didn't do as well in Moravia, and Moravia also has heavy industry).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Fascinating

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Fascinating

I've got 1946 and the three other elections during the First Czech Republic if you're interested. I just figured 1935 was the most interesting.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Fascinating

I've got 1946 and the three other elections during the First Czech Republic if you're interested. I just figured 1935 was the most interesting.

I would have no objections to the others being posted

Btw, what's with the commie strength around (but evidently not in) Prague? Industrial area back then?

[Linus Van Pelt]

Nobody gives a sh**t

False, definitely, even if some of us don't have much comment of our own to offer.

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Btw, what's with the commie strength around (but evidently not in) Prague? Industrial area back then?

Definitely some industrial areas around back then, mining and manufacturing mostly.

[Хahar 🤔]

I notice that central Prague doesn't have a number. Is there some sort of inset map?

[minionofmidas]

Had to look twice to notice that I can, in fact, accurately tell Commies from Social Democrats on that.

So the Young Czechs won Prague but nowhere else? Hilarious.

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So the Young Czechs won Prague but nowhere else? Hilarious.

NarSj are not the Young Czechs.

[minionofmidas]

So the Young Czechs won Prague but nowhere else? Hilarious.

NarSj are not the Young Czechs.

They're the successor party's successor party. If I can trust my Czech wikipedia text comprehension.

[afleitch]

Can't post the image but here is a giant PDF of Scotland's parishes

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/19972/21083

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

A very united Sweden votes Thanks, But No Thanks to the Euro in 2003, and prove that we are indeed the second most Euroscheptic country in the Union.

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Here's 1920



and % results for the entire Czechoslovakia:
CSDSD (Czech socialists) 25.65%
CSL (Czech christiandems) 11.29%
DSDAP (Sudeten socialists) 11.12% [Sudetenland was largely working-class / rather poor]
RSZML (Czech agrarians) 9.74%
CSNS (Czech nationalists) 8.08% [largely lower middle-class/intelligentsia]
National Democrats (Czech liberals) 6.25%
DW20 (Sudeten Pan-germanists) 5.3%
Slovaks 3.91% (18.05% in Slovakia)
BdL (German agrarians) 3.9%
DCV (German christian-social party, rooted in Austrian Christian Social Party) 3.43%
(gap)
SMDZRCS (I think it's the Party of Smallholders, Cottiers and Entrepreneurs of Czechoslovakia) 0.69% - won 0 seats but won one district, likely large personal vote)

[Smid]

Interesting the overlap between the DSDAP in 1920 and the SDP in 1935 (at least in that western rim).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interesting the overlap between the DSDAP in 1920 and the SDP in 1935 (at least in that western rim).

Not that interesting; just the one was the party that most Germans voted for in 1920 and the other the party that most Germans voted for in 1935. Obviously a German nationalist party was not going to do very well in majority Czech districts.

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Interesting the overlap between the DSDAP in 1920 and the SDP in 1935 (at least in that western rim).

Not that interesting; just the one was the party that most Germans voted for in 1920 and the other the party that most Germans voted for in 1935. Obviously a German nationalist party was not going to do very well in majority Czech districts.

Well, perhaps he meant "interesting" more in the presence of overlap between socialists and Nazis, but that either isn't much surprising given that Sudetenland was poor and working-class, thus hit hard in 1929, thus strongly Nazi in 1935. Of course, Henlein's machine appealed to like 80% of Sudeten Germans by 1935.

In 1920, I *think* all German parties were anti-Czechoslovak State but parties such as the DSDAP, DCVP and BdL made their peace with the state during the Stresemann period.

[Smid]

Interesting the overlap between the DSDAP in 1920 and the SDP in 1935 (at least in that western rim).

Not that interesting; just the one was the party that most Germans voted for in 1920 and the other the party that most Germans voted for in 1935. Obviously a German nationalist party was not going to do very well in majority Czech districts.

Well, perhaps he meant "interesting" more in the presence of overlap between socialists and Nazis, but that either isn't much surprising given that Sudetenland was poor and working-class, thus hit hard in 1929, thus strongly Nazi in 1935. Of course, Henlein's machine appealed to like 80% of Sudeten Germans by 1935.

Yes, this - including that the people most likely to have been willing to listen to Nazi rhetoric about economic problems are probably also the people most likely to be willing to vote socialist.

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Yes, this - including that the people most likely to have been willing to listen to Nazi rhetoric about economic problems are probably also the people most likely to be willing to vote socialist.

I don't know enough about Sudetenland politics to comment directly, but that certainly wasn't true in Germany.

Though it is interesting to note that one of the few areas that saw a large and direct red to brown swing (southwest Saxony; Vogtland and the Erzgebirge) bordered the Sudetenland. The usual explanation for that is the weakness of Union and SPD structures in the area (contrast inevitably being drawn with Leipzig) though maybe events over the border also added to a sense of militant nationalism.

[Gloucestrian]

Interesting Norwegian EU membership referendum in 1994.