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« Reply #125 on: February 21, 2004, 12:54:49 pm »

The immortal words of winnie the pooh or the logo?
the logo.  I uploaded it to the site.  check it out now.
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« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2004, 01:27:23 pm »

k, change the site's colour scheme, all red white and blue!!!
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« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2004, 01:27:48 pm »

k, change the site's colour scheme, all red white and blue!!!
Nah...
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« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2004, 01:31:16 pm »

why not? it is supposed to look like it is really affiliated with him, you gotta use red white and blue cos it's patriotic, that is why i did the logo like that.
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« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2004, 01:52:22 pm »

why not? it is supposed to look like it is really affiliated with him, you gotta use red white and blue cos it's patriotic, that is why i did the logo like that.
I'll see what I can do.
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« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2004, 03:07:53 pm »

In recent history SOutherners have been rather reluctant to vote third party. Perot scored worst there, so did Nader, so did Anderson.
Seems they lost interest in voting third parties after 1968...Or maybe it's because voting patterns are now so strongly determined by race.
Doesn't bode well for a third party candidate who's logical base in SOuthern. Let me once more remind you of what happened to Buchanan.

Buchanan's running was Black...
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« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2004, 03:19:10 pm »

In recent history SOutherners have been rather reluctant to vote third party. Perot scored worst there, so did Nader, so did Anderson.
Seems they lost interest in voting third parties after 1968...Or maybe it's because voting patterns are now so strongly determined by race.
Doesn't bode well for a third party candidate who's logical base in SOuthern. Let me once more remind you of what happened to Buchanan.

Buchanan's running was Black...
Ezola Foster
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« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2004, 03:32:46 pm »

In recent history SOutherners have been rather reluctant to vote third party. Perot scored worst there, so did Nader, so did Anderson.
Seems they lost interest in voting third parties after 1968...Or maybe it's because voting patterns are now so strongly determined by race.
Doesn't bode well for a third party candidate who's logical base in SOuthern. Let me once more remind you of what happened to Buchanan.

Buchanan's running was Black...
Ezola Foster

Oh yeah, that could explain his poor showing in the South, right?
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« Reply #133 on: February 22, 2004, 08:02:42 pm »

No Moore in 2004
The Weekly Standard
March 1, 2004
Katherine Mangu-Ward

The Ten Commandments judge shalt not run.


WHEN FORMER Alabama supreme court chief justice Roy Moore speaks in sympathetic venues, he is "treated like a rock star, signing autographs and getting thunderous standing ovations," according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Moore's cult following (as well as his newly unemployed status) has prompted some of his more zealous supporters to suggest that Moore take his show on the road and run for president in 2004.

Moore, of course, became a household name after he erected a two-and-a-half ton monument of the Ten Commandments on public property (the rotunda of the Alabama state judicial building) and then last year defied a federal judge's order to remove it.

Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal's John Fund dedicated a column to the possibility of a Moore candidacy on the ticket of Howard Phillips's Constitution party. The Constitution party has the third-largest number of registered voters in the United States and was on the ballot in 41 states in 2000. If Moore gets "on the talk shows and stir up conservative voters," Fund wondered, could he pose a threat to Bush in a close race, as Ralph Nader did to Al Gore in 2000?

Alas, the world will never know. Moore emphatically denies that he will challenge Bush this year, "period." Constitution party bigwig and sometime presidential candidate Phillips is an "old friend," says Moore. But the party's candidate for this cycle has already been selected, Phillips says. In fact, he "personally counseled [Moore] not to declare for office at this time."

Instead, Moore tells me, he's concentrating on a series of appeals to regain his seat on the Alabama bench. He has also teamed up with Georgia's Zell Miller, Sam Brownback of Kansas, South Carolina's Lindsey Graham, and a few other congressional stalwarts to introduce a bill to prohibit courts from preventing members of government from "acknowledging God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government."

The legislative route, says Moore, is the only way to rein in the activist courts. "Many people on the street have a sense that the courts have gone too far." The courts have "gotten into the business of making law, and it's bad law." They've removed God from public life and, in so doing, have undermined the "feasibility of a moral society."

And though he "understands what others are trying to do," he opposes the federal marriage amendment on the grounds that "you can't have a constitutional amendment for every act of immorality established by the courts."

Some will no doubt think it's a shame that Moore isn't running. His facility with the spoken word and unconventional stance on big issues like the marriage amendment could have provided an interesting contrast to the less verbally gifted candidates. One shivers to imagine the flights of rhetorical fancy that would have been unleashed by the Roy Moore/Alan Keyes ticket of which a few right-wingers dare to dream.

Despite Fund's scenario, in which Moore takes a dent out of Bush's support from the conservative base, numerous political analysts (between snickers and giggles) stress that the Constitution party has, thus far, utterly failed to emerge as a force in national campaigns. Moore might have provided a diverting rhetorical sideshow in a race full of verbal gaffes, but would otherwise have been unlikely to make or break the Bush campaign's ongoing efforts to keep conservatives happily in the fold.

Perhaps, though, if the Bush campaign wanted to hedge against the possibility of even a remote third-party threat, the president might consider tapping Judge Moore as poet laureate.Because it turns out that Moore--the conservative hard-liner given to quoting George Washington, Blackstone, and far more obscure constitutional commentary at length, from memory--has been writing poetry for years.

At the end of our chat, Moore honored me with a short recitation of one of his original works. He has turned his poetic gifts to such themes as the Declaration of Independence and "the spiritual battle raging" in "our great nation." But, as he humbly points out, "we all start off with love poems."

With only the slightest prompting, he launches into a poem that he wrote for his wife, Kayla, shortly after he was appointed to the bench. "The Verdict" consists of rhyming couplets tying together judicial imagery and romance. "Condemned to a life of marital bliss / Our fate was sealed by a very first kiss . . ."

But perhaps the rest of the poem, like Moore's campaign for the Oval Office in 2004, is best left to the imagination.


Katherine Mangu-Ward is a reporter at The Weekly Standard.
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« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2004, 08:47:01 pm »

Third, the looming third party run by "Ten Commandments Judge" Roy Moore would likely draw from Bush an amount at least equal to what Nader would draw from the Democratic nominee. Also, watch for many liberals to express their anger with Nader by cutting off their donations to any of the groups associated with Nader.
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« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2004, 08:52:14 pm »

Roy Moore's would probably get more support than Nader last time, especially if he got Falwell or Robertson as his running mate. It wouldn't have much of an effect outside of the states of Florida and Missouri, and Tennessee, Louisiana, and Arkansas if those come close this time. His voting percentages will be about an eighth of what Wallace got anywhere.
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« Reply #136 on: February 23, 2004, 12:03:04 pm »

not surprised Moore is not running.

He is more likely to run for governor in 2006 or senate int he coming years.  If he ran on a "constitution" party ticket he would never get elected now or int he future.
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« Reply #137 on: February 23, 2004, 12:05:37 pm »

not surprised Moore is not running.

He is more likely to run for governor in 2006 or senate int he coming years.  If he ran on a "constitution" party ticket he would never get elected now or int he future.

Precisely.  He would make a fine enough senator if he'd abide by the party's dictates.  Seems like he could be a bit of a loose cannon though.
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« Reply #138 on: February 23, 2004, 03:20:16 pm »

His best chance at winning is for the Alabama Governorship, I think.
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« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2004, 01:01:05 pm »

Had to bring this topic up from the dead again. Was news surfing for a few minutes, and saw Roy Moore on something for Fox Newz.  When he was asked whether he would run for political office, he said he would wait and see how the present conflict resolved itself, or something like that. So "Moore in 04" is still a possibility, at least it appears to be that way.
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« Reply #140 on: February 26, 2004, 01:15:11 pm »

Had to bring this topic up from the dead again. Was news surfing for a few minutes, and saw Roy Moore on something for Fox Newz.  When he was asked whether he would run for political office, he said he would wait and see how the present conflict resolved itself, or something like that. So "Moore in 04" is still a possibility, at least it appears to be that way.

Well 'political office' is pretty general.  Maybe he'll be smart and go for Senator or Governor.
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« Reply #141 on: February 26, 2004, 01:25:12 pm »

Yeah, that's why I'm guessing. Could be anything right now, though.
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« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2004, 02:12:49 pm »

Had to bring this topic up from the dead again. Was news surfing for a few minutes, and saw Roy Moore on something for Fox Newz.  When he was asked whether he would run for political office, he said he would wait and see how the present conflict resolved itself, or something like that. So "Moore in 04" is still a possibility, at least it appears to be that way.

I guess the state AG office is open. Maybe he'll go there. Riley has upset some Republicans, so the governorship is a strong possibility.
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« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2015, 09:41:49 pm »

Roy Moore appears to have more of a future in politics than most other candidates of 2004.
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