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« on: June 21, 2013, 07:15:15 pm »

I don't really feel like creating another thread for this, so I'll just ask it here.  Do any of you think there's a good reason to buy or listen to vinyl records?  I know a lot of people think they sound better, but I've tried to compare it to digital, and I can't do it.  So if it doesn't sound better, then is there really any point in spending more money on that than you could for a digital download?

Let me put it like this - in theory, there should not be any difference. In practice, I have found my old vinyl records to sound warmer and also a bit more 'direct' than CDs, which may have to do with some inevitable information loss during digitising. If you compress the full digital signal into mp3 for download, you have further information loss.
Now, the first question is - do you realise and mind that information loss at all. There is probably no point in buying vinyl to play it on a cheap record player over cheap loudspeakers that aren't able to capture and transmit that subtle extra of information. You either do a full upgrading, or you just stick to downloads and a mp3 player, anything in-between does hardly make sense.
Secondly - the information loss comes with any digitising in the process. This means, there is also not much point in buying a digitally mastered song on vinyl. So, if you are mostly listening to music that has been recorded from the 1990s onwards, you may remain digital.
Thirdly, vinyl is not vinyl. My father used to work for PolyGram. He was a member of the research team that developed stereo, and also participated in the initial development of the Compact Disc, before moving into quality managing of their main record factory in Hannover. According to him, in the 1970s / 80s there was a sizable number of Americans who wanted to buy original Hannover record pressings  (sizeable enough to include regular shipment to the USA in their production planning system), even though PolyGram ("Deutsche Grammophon") operated record factories in the USA. He said they never managed to get the US plants up to the German standard.
Of course, my 1970s / 1980s vinyl collection is to a good part consisting of records that were pressed in Hannover (got them free of charge, and could always impress the other guys at school with having the hot stuff first). They sound  better than CDs. If US pressings do as well - I don't know ...
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 07:12:45 am »

In the good old "Rockpalast" tradition, German TV has fully covered this year's Rock am Ring festival, and most performances are available on You Tube.

The international line-up:
Papa Roach - the crowd obviously loves them
Bullet for my Valentine ..and them as well.
Stone Sour - Band and audience have a lot of fun together
30 Seconds to Mars - Good concert, but the sound could sometimes be better..
Imagine Dragons - unfortunately just an extract, would have liked to see more
Stereophonics - Solid performance
Limp Bizkit - a lot of medleys and covers, surprisingly
Green Day - they have grown quite old, as have Bad Religion
The Killers - never one of my favourites, but for completeness sake
Volbeat - Danish Metal

And from the German line-up:
Kraftklub If they hadn't already been among my favourites, they would have definitely become so after this amazing performance. Check out from 32:00  to see what I mean..
Tocotronic - some bands never get mainstream
Selig - and more "Hamburger Schule". Solid performance.
The BossHoss - Berlin Cowboys, with their quite special humour
Cro - playing at home (he's from the region). The gender bias is pretty obvious..
Fettes Brot - Quite tragic to watch one of the most innovative bands of the nineties becoming a parody of themselves. But the audience still loves them..
Sportfreunde Stiller - I have always been ambivalent about them, and the crappy sound does not really help
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 08:48:28 am »
« Edited: August 13, 2013, 08:59:52 pm by Franknburger »


Two of the best songs ever written:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RYQ8Y-ObMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJcCzWcgPsY

And one of the best live shows I have ever seen ...

Though their show was still a bit better, for special reasons


The lead singer left the stage completely drunk in the middle of the show, and the guitarist
started this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkodRo5gTQk
"When reality surpasses you, you have no friends, not even alcohol"
The singer returned, and they finished the show with an incredible tension on stage.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 08:57:18 pm »


I have serious problems with that kind of music. Why? Because it sounds pretty similar to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY2xmxzIpc
(scroll down a bit to see the first comment)

Here is a bit of background how the scene on the other side of the Oresund was organised at the time the Dominus song was recorded. [And, no, there is no indication that any Dominus or Volbeat member was ever an active part of the scene, but the musical relation is quite obvious]

Want an idea how it sounds in German? You will have to stand 1 minute of a german journalist talking, but after that you will get the idea pretty quickly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALjpQle89YY

More of that here (click on the clips in the lower right corner)

Finally, a Swedish and a German list of bands to treat with care.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 07:09:36 pm »

Tonight was the 9th Bundesvision Song Contest. Usually a good opportunity to spot fresh bands and trends, this year's contest was quite a disappointment - a mix of traditional rock ballads, Neue Deutsche Welle revival, and German HipHop.

Winner was Bosse for Lower Saxony. "So oder so" is a nice song with good text. In the absence of anything spectacular, solid craftsmanship did the job.

Second-placed Johannes Oerding (Hamburg) represented the rock ballad faction with "Nichts geht mehr"

Favourite YouTube HipHop hero MCFitti from Berlin only came in third with "Fitti mit'm Bart"

Place four went to Keule from Brandenburg with their NDW retro song "Ja Genau".  ("taxes down, jobs up, nobody intends to build a wall - yes, of course..." plus a gay marriage kiss in the end )

Interestingly, East German entries tended to have political texts: MeckPomm- "I turn terrorist", Saxony -"I don't need / can't get a flat (the city is my home)", while songs from the West were all about dance & fun or disappointed love.

Musically most interesting was Adolar (Saxony-Anhalt) with their Russian Folk- Heavy Metal crossover "Hallelujah".

All entries are available at http://tvtotal.prosieben.de/tvtotal/specials/bundesvision-song-contest/
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