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Alcon
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« on: November 07, 2004, 11:39:04 PM »

Really...whatever happened to putting a check mark next to the candidate you wanted?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/travis.asp

Quite an odd problem.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 07:56:17 AM »


Maybe it will teach this gal not to be lazy in the future and examine each candidate for who they are and what they stand for, and not just blindly vote for a singlular party.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 05:58:48 PM »

Straight democratic ticket in the home of Badnarik and Bush?

It would'nt surprise me if the machine jumped up and beat the woman to death after voting straight Dem.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 06:32:47 PM »

Travis County is THE most liberal county in Texas.  They would elect a self confessed paedophile to office if it had DEMOCRAT by its name.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2004, 01:46:05 AM »

Why the trend toward dem. in Austin.  I thought Austin was very suburban, like Houston.  Lots of stay at home moms, new cookie-cutter homes, and shopping centers and office parks sprouting up like mushrooms.  Also the capital of the Lone Star State for Pete's sake.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2004, 04:42:09 AM »

Why the trend toward dem. in Austin.  I thought Austin was very suburban, like Houston.  Lots of stay at home moms, new cookie-cutter homes, and shopping centers and office parks sprouting up like mushrooms.  Also the capital of the Lone Star State for Pete's sake.

Yes, but since it's the capital, it has lots of government employees. Also, it's a university town, so you have all of the professors and students.

State capitals and university towns tend to be liberal in general.

As for Shankbear's comments, apparently Gore must be worse than a pedophile, because Travis County did vote for Bush in 2000 (albeit with help from Nader).
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2004, 09:37:04 AM »

Really...whatever happened to putting a check mark next to the candidate you wanted?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/travis.asp

Quite an odd problem.
Harris County (where Houston is located) uses the same type of voting machines as Travis County (where Austin is located).

In Texas, you can override a straight ticket vote on individual races.  That is, the straight ticket vote only has an effect for a particular race if you don't pick anyone.   If you were using a paper ballot, you could leave the rest of the ballot blank - and you would know why the rest of the ballot was blank.

On the voting machines this was confusing some voters.  They would vote straight ticket, and then go to the next page of races, and it would show that they hadn't voted for any candidate.  So they reprogrammed the machines, so that if you voted straight ticket it would then show that you had voted for each candidate of your party.

To prevent overvotes, the machines are programmed to erase your vote for one candidate if you vote for another.  So if you voted a straight Democrat ticket, and scrolled to the president page, it would show:

President
[  ] Bush - Rep
[X] Kerry - Dem
[  ] Badnarik - Lib
[  ] Write-In

In Harris County, the machines were originally programmed to move the selection cursor to the first choice on a race, but now they move it to the label for the race, and you then have to scroll to a candidate before you select.  It sounds like that in Travis County, they may still be using the other method (or maybe because the select won't do anything while cursor is on the label, and the voter was scrolling to the next race).

If the cursor was on "Bush", and the voter selected it, the Bush box would be marked, and the Kerry box was unmarked.  The cursor would also advance to the next race on the ballot.  This is undoubtably what was happening.

For a straight-ticket Republican voter, it is less of a problem.  The way you "unvote" on a race, is to select an already selected choice.  So if you had voted Republican, and then came to the presidential race, and accidentally unvoted Bush, your straight ticket choice would override the lack of a vote.

Another source of confusion was on races where there was no candidate for your straight-ticket-party (e.g. if you voted Democrat, and a race had only a Republican candidate, or a Republican candidate and a Libertarian candidate).  If you only voted straight party Democrat, you would have undervoted that race.  Democrats complained that this was confusing voters.

The solutions that the Democrats have proposed, essentially ignore state law.  They either want the machine to scroll past all races if you vote straight-ticket, preventing ticket splitting; and they don't want to have a warning if your undervote is due to a straight ticket vote.  The real solution would be to eliminate straight-ticket voting, but Democrats don't want that to happen.
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