Debates, proposals, complaints, (dis)agreement with moderator's decisions

[homelycooking]

A procedural point, bbf: put me down for a New York counties survivor. As soon as MN counties are done, I'll run that one (but at a much faster pace than MN)

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Notice: My Signatures of Treasurers of the United States Survivor was deleted due to lack of interest.

[big bad fab]

No idea or comment from Nhoj, Mr. X, Magic ?

BenNebbich ? Jarl ? Kalwejt ? all the others ?

[big bad fab]

OK, I change the rules along what I've said on January 13th.

EDIT: rules changed.

Everyone who wants to run an off-topic survivor can now do it, but must first go in the "waiting lists" thread.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Minor complaint: I would argue that Spanish and Portuguese navigators and conquistadores should be a on-topic survivor. I'm curious as to why you think otherwise.

[big bad fab]

Minor complaint: I would argue that Spanish and Portuguese navigators and conquistadores should be a on-topic survivor. I'm curious as to why you think otherwise.

You may be right: I was more thinking about navigators than about conquistadores.
And as I want to be strict on "on-topic" definition ...
But even for navigators, political power aims had their part, sure.
So, I'd be OK to put it in the "on-topic" list.

Just to be sure, do other forumers have an opinion on this point ?
Especially Hans, of course, but everyone else ?

(as it is anyway too old to be valid, it has no real consequence in this case and for the moment; but we must try to set more precise borders between the 2 categories, so let's begin with this 1st example )

[Platypus]

I think the new rules are a perfectly reasonable compromise.

I'll shortly start a new 'parliaments' survivor, possibly for southern Africa; would that be 'on-topic'? I suspect it would be, but just checking.

Also, Navigators and Conquistadors is historically related to politics but our current opinions of them are not overly political. I'd probably accept it as on-topic but I could understand it not being considered as such. I also think the turnout will probably be very, very low.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I think the new rules are a perfectly reasonable compromise.

I'll shortly start a new 'parliaments' survivor, possibly for southern Africa; would that be 'on-topic'? I suspect it would be, but just checking.

Also, Navigators and Conquistadors is historically related to politics but our current opinions of them are not overly political. I'd probably accept it as on-topic but I could understand it not being considered as such. I also think the turnout will probably be very, very low.

Well, my argument is that it's not just politcal games that should be on-topic, but historical ones as well. After all, the parent board is called "Election and History Games." While navigators and Conquistadors may not have political significance in modern times, you cannot deny their historical significance.

[big bad fab]

I tend to think that your Parliaments series is off-topic, hughento.

Like signatures, it is related to politics but not political in itself, as it is more about architecture and the idea we have of public buildings.

Which means you'll have to wait until the 31st of January, when "Bond villains" will be considered as inactive, or until US Presidents signatures is over if it's earlier (which I doubt of).

I already put your idea in the list.


I've put navigators and conquistadores in the on-topic list.

[BenNebbich]

i'm fine with the new rules.

[big bad fab]

Our sub-board seems to be a bit inactive these days.

Hans is on holiday and of course: "only one person is missing and the world becomes empty", as Lamartine roughly said .
And Magic is MIA since the beginning of 2011 .

I think partial class exams (is this the phrase in English?) require some time from many of us, too.
It was the same problem one year ago.

[homelycooking]

I am waiting for Hans to vote in my survivors before I update them, since he's been one of the best patrons of the Corporations and Signatures survivors.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Can we don non-political survivors here or not?

[big bad fab]

Can we don non-political survivors here or not?

Read the rules.

Yes you can, but you have to apply for it.
I'll put your idea on a waiting list, because there is a maximum of 3 off-topic survivors manageable at the same time, and when it's your turn, I'll PM you.

Of course, it also depends on what you see as "non-political". Just submit the idea first.
(don't worry, it won't be stolen as there are lists to "protect" ideas).

[big bad fab]

Soory guys, I'm ill, so don't expect updates before tomorrow or the day after.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Soory guys, I'm ill, so don't expect updates before tomorrow or the day after.

I hope you feel better soon.

I want to make a Survivor with the name: "Rulers of Prussia"

I will include all Dukes and Kings since 1525 and the Prime minister from 1918 - 1945

I hope there is some interest

[big bad fab]

Can we don non-political survivors here or not?

As Edu and hughento hasn't answered to me if they want to launch their off-topic survivors, I launch mine () and, Obamanation, if you want to create one, you can.

Just declare in the appropriate stickied topic ("Waiting lists...")

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

I don't know if this counts as non-political, but I'd like to do a largest cities in every state survivor.

(You know, Birmingham, Anchorage, Phoenix, Little Rock, Los Angeles, Denver, etc.)

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I don't know if this counts as non-political, but I'd like to do a largest cities in every state survivor.

(You know, Birmingham, Anchorage, Phoenix, Little Rock, Los Angeles, Denver, etc.)

That was done already. New York City won.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Ok then, sorry.

How about Native American Flags? Anyone find that interesting?

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I'd vote in that.

[big bad fab]

This would be off-topic and you'll have to wait a bit (please go to the "waiting lists" thread).

I may be in, but not sure.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

For another apolitical one: Things BRTD always talks about Survivior.

Suburbs, Opebo, Seht Macfarlene, South Park, Mormons, Strip Clubs..

[big bad fab]

For another apolitical one: Things BRTD always talks about Survivior.

Suburbs, Opebo, Seht Macfarlene, South Park, Mormons, Strip Clubs..

Well, I guess nothing forbids you to do such a survivor.
Are you really sure it's such an interesting one ?

Of course, I wouldn't be in.
I'm not sure many regular voters in survivors would be fascinated by such a survivor...

Do you really want me to put in the off-topic waiting list ?
(your Native American flags has bee added to this list, BTW)

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Not really.