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Bacon King
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« on: October 31, 2010, 06:36:27 PM »

I'm back if you want to give me fifteen minutes slack.

I don't really have an excuse; I've just been busy with school and have had some real-life drama lately and for some reason basically forgot the Senate existed.

I'll be active again, I promise Smiley
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 06:49:03 PM »

Let's see here, time for a legal defense!

Senate bylaws Article 11, Section 1 says that:

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Note the bolded phrase. This doesn't say that after 21 days I'm automatically kicked out, it simply says that my seat can be declared as vacant after a period of not posting, but only after 21 days of absence. I posted before you declared a vacancy therefore your declaration is invalid.

Also, I'm certain that the precedent here is that 21 days means 21 calender days, not exactly 504 hours, so I couldn't be kicked out until after midnight tonight.

And, to make a third argument for the hell of it, I was in Georgia when I made the post on the 10th, and considering I'm in Louisiana now only 503 hours has elapsed for me personally between those posts Tongue
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 07:19:42 PM »

Ah, this fun controversy is perfect to get me interested in Atlasia again! Grin

I posted last on October 10th. Today is the 31st. I had not posted in the Senate for 20 days; it would have become the 21st day after midnight.

Note Atlasian law's precedent regarding issues of time. If it was to be 21 days as in, EXACTLY 504 hours, it would have said 504 hours.

In the OSPR for example, some sections say something like "72 hours" rather than "three days" while other sections say something like "three days" instead of "72 hours." If these two terms were identical there would be no need for separate terminology.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2010, 07:21:20 PM »


I believe I shall, if NCYankee does not rescind his announcement of vacancy.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 07:28:47 PM »

But just below that, wormguy: "c. Also called civil day. a division of time equal to 24 hours but reckoned from one midnight to the next. Compare lunar day, sidereal day."

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Bacon King
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 07:32:16 PM »

But just below that, wormguy: "c. Also called civil day. a division of time equal to 24 hours but reckoned from one midnight to the next. Compare lunar day, sidereal day."



Active clause.

No, I believe, "reckoned from one midnight to the next" is the relevant clause here. Only twenty midnights have passed while I didn't post in the Senate, therefore it has been twenty days. Smiley
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Bacon King
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 07:38:25 PM »

Consider, Yankee, the arguments I have made. My seat is not vacant. You need to do nothing. If anybody thinks the legal process has for some reason been violated here, then they can sue me and then it'll go to court. Simplest way out here for everyone involved. If I take this to court personally, that would most likely put me existing in a gray area of being-a-Senator-yet-not, which would just make everything confusing.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 07:40:06 PM »

"The hour of our triumph."

"An hour's work"

"The hour of reckoning"

"Hours and hours"

What?

Those are figures of speech and not anything that would ever appear in a legal text.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 10:59:31 AM »

Declaring my seat vacant does expel me from the Senate, unless I'm allowed to be sitting in a vacant seat Tongue As it is, unless the Constitution's amended, there has to be a 2/3 vote to remove any Senator even for inactivity.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 01:06:37 AM »

For the record, I do promise that I am not in fact dead.

Grin

(gives a whole new meaning to zombie voter, heh)
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Bacon King
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 11:13:51 AM »

Indeed, my "warning" was NCY saying that my seat was vacant before it actually was. And I don't really think there's a partisan aspect to this all. I'm glad this could work together for everyone amicably.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 11:17:15 AM »

He's referring to when Yankee missed a vote of mine and thought I was to be expelled a day or two early.
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