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Tender Branson
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« Reply #1175 on: September 18, 2011, 01:34:10 PM »

Greens still at about 25% in Rügen, with 32/39 precincts in.
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« Reply #1176 on: September 18, 2011, 01:35:04 PM »

Of the 15 constituencies that declared so far, 13 are SPD, 1 CDU and 1 Greens. Non of the seats changed hands, although some almost did.

http://www.wahlen-berlin.de/wahlen/BE2011/ergebnis/karten/Erststimmen/erst.asp?sel1=1052&sel2=0651
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« Reply #1177 on: September 18, 2011, 01:37:05 PM »

The Piratemania is getting utterly ridiculous. WTF, 9%, seriously ?

Isn't it great? Cheesy

Well, I prefer than angry youth people vote Piraten than NPD.

Yes. Agree 100%.

I'm very happy that voting for idiots like the Pirates is becoming the "cool" thing to do. Seriously. If that's what it takes to get the youth away from the Nazis, so be it.

And of course....I'm very pleased that the Pirates have prevented the red-red government from being able to continue! Smiley

Yeah, you like them only because they serve your (evil) interests. Wink
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« Reply #1178 on: September 18, 2011, 01:37:32 PM »

Greens still at about 25% in Rügen, with 32/39 precincts in.

but is it enogh to take a seat from the nazis - i mean that is the point up there?
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« Reply #1179 on: September 18, 2011, 01:40:25 PM »

The Piratemania is getting utterly ridiculous. WTF, 9%, seriously ?

Isn't it great? Cheesy

Well, I prefer than angry youth people vote Piraten than NPD.

Yes. Agree 100%.

I'm very happy that voting for idiots like the Pirates is becoming the "cool" thing to do. Seriously. If that's what it takes to get the youth away from the Nazis, so be it.

And of course....I'm very pleased that the Pirates have prevented the red-red government from being able to continue! Smiley

Yeah, you like them only because they serve your (evil) interests. Wink

Well....one evil interest Smiley

I think getting youth away from the Far Right is a very worthy goal as well, though!
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #1180 on: September 18, 2011, 01:41:45 PM »

The Piratemania is getting utterly ridiculous. WTF, 9%, seriously ?

Isn't it great? Cheesy

Well, I prefer than angry youth people vote Piraten than NPD.

Yes. Agree 100%.

I'm very happy that voting for idiots like the Pirates is becoming the "cool" thing to do. Seriously. If that's what it takes to get the youth away from the Nazis, so be it.

And of course....I'm very pleased that the Pirates have prevented the red-red government from being able to continue! Smiley

Yeah, you like them only because they serve your (evil) interests. Wink

Well....one evil interest Smiley

I think getting youth away from the Far Right is a very worthy goal as well, though!

Or away from the Greens ... Grin
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« Reply #1181 on: September 18, 2011, 01:43:37 PM »

I would actually have happily voted tactically for the Greens today if they had had any chance of throwing Wowereit out and reaching 1st place.

As it stands.....I would have cast an (unhappy) CDU vote. As usual.

I wonder how many regular young Green voters are "one-time" Pirates just to show everyone the finger. I'm not really convinced this is going to be a long term trend.
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« Reply #1182 on: September 18, 2011, 01:44:42 PM »

The youth massively voted for the far-right before ? I didn't know that. Of course voting pirate is better than voting for the nazis, but it would be nice to have the youth voting for the party they should vote for (ie the left Tongue).
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« Reply #1183 on: September 18, 2011, 01:45:08 PM »

31 constituencies have a winner so far.

SPD 16 (-2)
CDU 10
Greens 5 (+2)

The Greens gain two seats from the SPD, Mitte 1 and Kreuzberg-Friedrichshain 5. Very strong results for the CDU in their West Berlin strongholds, they are in the 40s in several seats.
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« Reply #1184 on: September 18, 2011, 01:47:26 PM »

The youth massively voted for the far-right before ? I didn't know that. Of course voting pirate is better than voting for the nazis, but it would be nice to have the youth voting for the party they should vote for (ie the left Tongue).

I wouldn't say massively, but have a look (mostly in the East, of course) how strong Nazis were among young voters. I think 18-24 men in Mecklenburg, for example, voted 13% NPD or something.

And you can still see some traces of Nazi support in East Berlin today.

Of course the Pirates serve my amusement more than anything else...Wink
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« Reply #1185 on: September 18, 2011, 01:51:55 PM »

don't forget: 4,3% for right wing parties today.
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« Reply #1186 on: September 18, 2011, 01:52:34 PM »

CDU has a chance to win Neukölln.

But why does the CDU lose there compared with 2006 (the SPD of course loses more there) ?
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« Reply #1187 on: September 18, 2011, 01:54:33 PM »

87% of the party list vote already counted in Berlin:

28.2 SPD
23.3 CDU
17.6 Greens
11.7 Left
  9.0 Pirates
  2.1 NPD
  1.8 FDP
  1.5 TSP
  1.2 PRO
  1.0 Freedom

All others below 1%
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« Reply #1188 on: September 18, 2011, 01:58:08 PM »

CDU currently leads the 1st vote in Marzahn-Hellersdorf's 5th district.

And this is a district in the Far-East ...
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« Reply #1189 on: September 18, 2011, 02:04:40 PM »

52% of the party list vote already counted in Berlin:

27.7 SPD
23.2 CDU
17.3 Greens
11.9 Left
  9.7 Pirates
  2.1 NPD
  1.9 FDP
  1.5 TSP
  1.3 PRO
  1.0 Freedom

All others below 1%

TSP = Tierschutzpartei, the Animal Rights Party I mentioned.
PRO = Pro Deutschland and FREIHEIT (Freedom/Liberty) are basically softcore-Nazis.

Freiheit is basically the Berlin divison of the FPÖ.
PvdV, is more like it (including the inspiration for the name). They're the Anti-Islamist bigots trying hard to not be taken for standard-issue Neonazis. PRO are the Anti-Islamist bigots who are not trying at all hard. Many of their leadership are former NPD or REP members, they wouldn't actually be particularly welcome in "Freiheit".
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« Reply #1190 on: September 18, 2011, 02:05:53 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2011, 02:13:14 PM by republicanism »

CDU currently leads the 1st vote in Marzahn-Hellersdorf's 5th district.

And this is a district in the Far-East ...

They already won it last time, the only constituency they won in East Berlin. It is a middle class suburb, surrounded by Plattenbau.

45 constituencies declared:

SPD 24 (-2)
CDU 14 (+1)
Grüne 6 (+2)
Linke 1 (-1)

CDU wins Spandau 4 from SPD.
And SPD gains Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg 4 from Linke.
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« Reply #1191 on: September 18, 2011, 02:12:09 PM »

And now for the icing on the Pirate Cake: Their list ran to only 15 names. If they'd done any better, they would have reduced the size of parliament (as the seats they cannot fill would not be allocated at all.) In fact, that may still happen if some of their candidates quickly find the workload to hard, fall out with the party etc, as is wont to happen in first-time parties.

The Pirates didn't prevent red-red, they benefitted from its weakness; they just soaked up the votes of people on the left but underwhelmed by both a Green party that tries to challenge the SPD from the right, and a Left still discussing the Berlin wall (and rooted among old folks in Plattenbauten). People like me, that is. Kiss Their Berlin platform was also unusually strong on the "left" part of their broadly "left-libertarian" bent.
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« Reply #1192 on: September 18, 2011, 02:20:18 PM »

SPD 27 27.58
CDU 18 17.86
Left 14 14.27
Gre   7   6.66
NPD  5  4.63

That's what seat distribution looks like with four precincts out in Rügen - the Green campaign managed to win the Greens a seat, but at the SPD's rather than the NPD's expense.
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« Reply #1193 on: September 18, 2011, 02:22:14 PM »

And the mayoral runoffs in Offenbach and Rüsselsheim. Turnout in both cities was another tad lower than two weeks ago.

Offenbach's SPD incumbent breezed the runoff, as expected, winning 58.0% of the vote.
Rüsselsheim sadly won't get a Green OB. The CDU candidate won 50.4 to 49.6, or by exactly 100 votes out of 13k-odd cast.
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« Reply #1194 on: September 18, 2011, 02:34:12 PM »

PRO = Pro Deutschland and FREIHEIT (Freedom/Liberty) are basically softcore-Nazis.

No, they are the last democratic parties that care for the autochthonous population of Germany.

Well let's agree we disagree...
The autochthonous population of the lower Main valley were the Celts.
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« Reply #1195 on: September 18, 2011, 02:37:55 PM »


54 constituencies declared.

SPD 27 (-2)
CDU 17 (+2)
Grüne 6 (+2)
Lipa 4 (-2)

Changes:

SPD --> CDU: Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf 5, Spandau 4
SPD --> Greens: Kreuzberg-Friedrichshain 5, Mitte 1
Left ---> SPD: Lichtenberg 5, Kreuzberg-Friedrichshain 4
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« Reply #1196 on: September 18, 2011, 02:43:18 PM »

Where are you getting that from? I see only four declarations (up from zero the last time I looked) - FK 2 (Green hold, duh), CW 5 (CDU gain from SPD), Spandau 3 (SPD hold), Lichtenberg 5 (SPD gain from Left).
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« Reply #1197 on: September 18, 2011, 02:46:15 PM »









Some of Berlin's new Pirate MdA's.
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« Reply #1198 on: September 18, 2011, 02:47:23 PM »

Where are you getting that from? I see only four declarations (up from zero the last time I looked) - FK 2 (Green hold, duh), CW 5 (CDU gain from SPD), Spandau 3 (SPD hold), Lichtenberg 5 (SPD gain from Left).

Ah your right, I took leads for declarations there. My fault.
But since more than 80-90% is counted in most seats, and the majority is not very close, my numbers should be about right.
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« Reply #1199 on: September 18, 2011, 02:49:14 PM »

Where are you getting that from? I see only four declarations (up from zero the last time I looked) - FK 2 (Green hold, duh), CW 5 (CDU gain from SPD), Spandau 3 (SPD hold), Lichtenberg 5 (SPD gain from Left).

Ah your right, I took leads for declarations there. My fault.
But since more than 80-90% is counted in most seats, and the majority is not very close, my numbers should be about right.
Trufax. Anyways they're really streaming in now.
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