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« on: May 31, 2011, 10:16:18 AM » |
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Worth noting that the issues that there are with the EU are mostly a result of its fundamentally undemocratic (and unaccountable; a slightly different thing) structure than with the fact that it's a supranational authority in certain respects; there is, after all, nothing sacred about nation states. The EU has done some good things and I'd not vote to leave it, but there's no point in waving aside the negatives; obviously everyone is concentrating on economic and monetary stuff at present, but no one would be allowed to forget that (for example) the EU's agricultural and fisheries policies are absolutely heinous.
The war thing is a tempting argument, but is basically silly and can be shown to be so. For example, Britain did not join the EEC until the early 1970s. And of the two big political parties in post-war Germany, the one that was initially quite hostile to the concept was also against rearmament.
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