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« Reply #225 on: February 10, 2011, 11:55:10 PM »

...though Allegheny did so by 0.2%

Hispanic share almost doubled - Hispanic population more than doubled. Black share also rose. State is now down to 55% Anglo.

The Prince George's County exurban outmigration continues.  The African-American population in neighboring Charles County nearly doubled, while the white population dropped by almost 10,000.  African-Americans make up about 41% of the county's population.   Whites are now barely a majority there, with 50.3%.   Whites continue to leave Prince George's County, too.

I wonder if this reflects the "syndrome" that whites don't want to live with blacks when their percentage in the hood gets "too high," or whether it is more due to differential hood housing demand, with blacks paying a premium to live in high percentage black neighborhoods that are safe and middle class, with decent schools. Does anyone know? Is this more about "racism" or economics is my question. And I have no idea, at least in this neck of the woods (in the deep South I just might assume racism frankly), what the answer is.

Part of it is that whites are leaving Maryland (and much of the Northeast, I suspect) for other areas of the country.  Maryland's non-Hispanic white population dropped by about 32,000 in the last 10 years.  Part is people moving from suburban Prince George's to new exurban developments in Charles County.  Since the overwhelming majority of Prince George's residents are black, it usually logically follows that those moving in to new developments up the road would be of the same race.  And a good part of it is probably simple white flight to other areas of Maryland.  The white population of Charles County's neighbors, St. Mary's and Calvert counties, both rose by over 10,000.
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« Reply #226 on: February 11, 2011, 12:16:39 AM »

I wonder if gays moving will give Iowa a boost. A woman at work was talking about her lesbian sister who is planning on moving with her girlfriend to Iowa a few weeks ago.
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« Reply #227 on: February 11, 2011, 12:20:50 AM »
« Edited: February 11, 2011, 12:25:18 AM by cinyc »

Any comments on Indiana, Iowa and Vermont?

There's not a heck of a lot to say about Vermont.  It didn't grow by much (under 3%), and what little growth there was appears to be in the Burlington and Montpelier areas.   Population growth in Southern Vermont was pretty much flat, with Rutland and Windsor Counties losing population.  Essex County on the Canadian border also lost population.

Vermont is still overwhelmingly white - 94.3%, down from 96.2%.  The Hispanic population nearly doubled - but that's not saying much - it's still under 10,000 and less than 2% of the total population.  So did the black population, but that's still under 6,000.
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« Reply #228 on: February 11, 2011, 11:41:04 AM »

Arkansas is also up; it looks like bad news for the Democrats, since all of the counties along the Mississippi and the southern part of the state lost population, while the Walmartistan and the ring of Republican counties around Little Rock gained quite a bit.
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« Reply #229 on: February 11, 2011, 11:50:31 AM »

Here are the CD numbers for Arkansas, Indiana, and Iowa:


Arkansas

Mean - 728,979

AR-01 - 687,694 (-41,285)
AR-02 - 751,377 (+22,398)
AR-03 - 822,564 (+93,585)
AR-04 - 654,283 (-74,696)

Indiana

Mean - 720,422

IN-01 - 705,600 (-14,822)
IN-02 - 679,254 (-41,168)
IN-03 - 723,633 (+3,211)
IN-04 - 789,835 (+69,413)
IN-05 - 809,107 (+88,685)
IN-06 - 676,548 (-43,874)
IN-07 - 676,351 (-44,071)
IN-08 - 694,398 (-26,024)
IN-09 - 729,076 (+8,654)

Iowa

Mean (5 districts) - 609,271

IA-01 - 596,443 (-12,828)
IA-02 - 620,856 (+11,585)
IA-03 - 642,116 (+32,845)
IA-04 - 609,487 (+216)
IA-05 - 577,453 (-31,818)
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« Reply #230 on: February 11, 2011, 12:06:29 PM »

I've also been looking at the state legislative data for Louisiana to see just how screwed the Dems are. Looks like New Orleans will be losing a State Senate seat, while Baton Rouge will be gaining one. The Republicans will probably also be able to squeeze at least an extra half a seat out of the territory east of Baton Rouge.
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« Reply #231 on: February 11, 2011, 06:16:26 PM »

One thing to note about Indiana is that Fort Wayne's population growth is overstated.  The city grew by 23.3% from 2000 - by far, the most of the top 5 cities in the state.  But that's skewed because Fort Wayne also annexed some neighboring towns in 2006.

Of the other top 5 cities, Indianapolis grew by just under 5%.  Evansville (-3%), South Bend (-6%) and Hammond (-3%) all lost population.
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« Reply #232 on: February 12, 2011, 12:13:14 AM »


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With a rather substantial shift from inner Indianapolis (the old city, rather than the new city, which is all of Marion County), to the now defunct suburbs of Indianapolis in now outer Indianapolis. In other words, just about all the growth was in the outer portion of Marion County.
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« Reply #233 on: February 12, 2011, 01:09:28 AM »


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With a rather substantial shift from inner Indianapolis (the old city, rather than the new city, which is all of Marion County), to the now defunct suburbs of Indianapolis in now outer Indianapolis. In other words, just about all the growth was in the outer portion of Marion County.

The counties surrounding Marion also experienced rapid growth, particularly Hendricks (+40%)  to the west and Hamilton (+50%) to the north.  The population of Carmel and Fishers in Hamilton County both more than doubled; Noblesville in that county grew by more than 80%.

Gary lost 22% of its population.   Jeffersonville, a Louisville suburb, grew by 64%.
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« Reply #234 on: February 12, 2011, 12:28:00 PM »

The congressional districts that appear to have lost population are (within state ordered from most declining):

AL-7
AR-4
CA-31, 53, 38, 47
FL-10
IL-4, 1, 2, 17, 7, 9, 6
IN-7, 6
IA-5
KS-1
LA-2, 3, 5
MI-14, 13, 5, 12, 1, 9, 15, 11
MN-4, 7
MS-2
MO-1
NE-3
NJ-10, 8
NY-28, 27, 24, 25, 26, 29
NC-1
OH-11, 10, 6, 17, 5, 1, 4
PA-14, 12, 5, 4, 2, 3
RI-1
SC-6
TN-9
VA-2
WV-3, 1

Most of which are self-explanatory (inner cities, black belt, plains, rust belt), but I was somewhat surprised at IL-6, VA-2, and FL-10.
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« Reply #235 on: February 12, 2011, 02:16:00 PM »

The congressional districts that appear to have lost population are (within state ordered from most declining):

AL-7
AR-4
CA-31, 53, 38, 47
FL-10
IL-4, 1, 2, 17, 7, 9, 6
IN-7, 6
IA-5
KS-1
LA-2, 3, 5
MI-14, 13, 5, 12, 1, 9, 15, 11
MN-4, 7
MS-2
MO-1
NE-3
NJ-10, 8
NY-28, 27, 24, 25, 26, 29
NC-1
OH-11, 10, 6, 17, 5, 1, 4
PA-14, 12, 5, 4, 2, 3
RI-1
SC-6
TN-9
VA-2
WV-3, 1

Most of which are self-explanatory (inner cities, black belt, plains, rust belt), but I was somewhat surprised at IL-6, VA-2, and FL-10.

There's no way NY-23 didn't lose population, too.  Perhaps NY-22, as well - though that depends on whether more people left the Binghamton area than moved into the Orange, Ulster and Dutchess portion of the district.
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« Reply #236 on: February 12, 2011, 03:52:43 PM »

The congressional districts that appear to have lost population are (within state ordered from most declining):

AL-7
AR-4
CA-31, 53, 38, 47
FL-10
IL-4, 1, 2, 17, 7, 9, 6
IN-7, 6
IA-5
KS-1
LA-2, 3, 5
MI-14, 13, 5, 12, 1, 9, 15, 11
MN-4, 7
MS-2
MO-1
NE-3
NJ-10, 8
NY-28, 27, 24, 25, 26, 29
NC-1
OH-11, 10, 6, 17, 5, 1, 4
PA-14, 12, 5, 4, 2, 3
RI-1
SC-6
TN-9
VA-2
WV-3, 1

Most of which are self-explanatory (inner cities, black belt, plains, rust belt), but I was somewhat surprised at IL-6, VA-2, and FL-10.

There's no way NY-23 didn't lose population, too.  Perhaps NY-22, as well - though that depends on whether more people left the Binghamton area than moved into the Orange, Ulster and Dutchess portion of the district.

I used jimrtex's list from this thread though that may be the 2009 ACS estimates, and I used the census 2000 100% summary for the 2000s CD's. That has NY-23 up 3,882 or 0.59% and NY-22 up 13,587 or 2.08%.
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« Reply #237 on: February 12, 2011, 08:57:10 PM »

Most of which are self-explanatory (inner cities, black belt, plains, rust belt), but I was somewhat surprised at IL-6, VA-2, and FL-10.

FL-10 is completely built out and densely populated. There's no room for expansion.
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« Reply #238 on: February 12, 2011, 10:16:28 PM »

I used jimrtex's list from this thread though that may be the 2009 ACS estimates, and I used the census 2000 100% summary for the 2000s CD's. That has NY-23 up 3,882 or 0.59% and NY-22 up 13,587 or 2.08%.

I wouldn't doubt NY-22, due to growth in the NYC exurbs.  But how the heck did NY-23 pick up population?  Border towns like Massena and Ogdensburg are morribund.   Plattsburgh should be losing population, too - and likely Watertown (though that's more dependent on how much Fort Drum grew or shrank in the past decade).  The only thing I can think of is that it might be offset by some growth in suburban Syracuse (Madison and Oswego counties).  Or perhaps there are more folks ending up in the prisons within the district.
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« Reply #239 on: February 13, 2011, 04:40:53 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2011, 04:42:48 PM by Kevinstat »

Looks like Iowa won't be able to draw a congressional district entirely in the 3x3 block of counties centered on Polk County (Des Moines), unless the tradition (and seeming state requirement) of not splitting counties is broken.  The closest you can get without going outside of the "Des Moines 9" or splitting a county is the Des Moines 9 minus Boone County (the second smallest county in the group) which is 2,568.75 people short of the ideal Iowa congressional district population (most people round the ideal district population to the nearest integer, but I'm not most people even though I don't support chopping people into fractional portions).  That's only 0.34% of the ideal district population, but probably too much to pass muster for a congressional district.  The Des Moines 9 minus Madison County (the smallest county in the group) would be 8,058.25 people (1.06%) too large.  Sad
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« Reply #240 on: February 13, 2011, 04:57:07 PM »

...though Allegheny did so by 0.2%

Hispanic share almost doubled - Hispanic population more than doubled. Black share also rose. State is now down to 55% Anglo.

The Prince George's County exurban outmigration continues.  The African-American population in neighboring Charles County nearly doubled, while the white population dropped by almost 10,000.  African-Americans make up about 41% of the county's population.   Whites are now barely a majority there, with 50.3%.   Whites continue to leave Prince George's County, too.

I wonder if this reflects the "syndrome" that whites don't want to live with blacks when their percentage in the hood gets "too high," or whether it is more due to differential hood housing demand, with blacks paying a premium to live in high percentage black neighborhoods that are safe and middle class, with decent schools. Does anyone know? Is this more about "racism" or economics is my question. And I have no idea, at least in this neck of the woods (in the deep South I just might assume racism frankly), what the answer is.

Part of it is that whites are leaving Maryland (and much of the Northeast, I suspect) for other areas of the country.  Maryland's non-Hispanic white population dropped by about 32,000 in the last 10 years.  Part is people moving from suburban Prince George's to new exurban developments in Charles County.  Since the overwhelming majority of Prince George's residents are black, it usually logically follows that those moving in to new developments up the road would be of the same race.  And a good part of it is probably simple white flight to other areas of Maryland.  The white population of Charles County's neighbors, St. Mary's and Calvert counties, both rose by over 10,000.

Is there data yet for which states had a net loss of whites?
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« Reply #241 on: February 13, 2011, 05:03:17 PM »

What information will be released in the 2010 census that was not released in the 2000 census and visa versa?

Anybody know?
The 2000 census included only the short form which asked the following questions:

Number Persons in Household
Housing: Owned; Mortgaged; Rented; Squatting.

For each person:

Family relationship to person filling out form
Sex
Age
Hispanicity
Race

The information that was formerly collected by the long form, is now collected in the American Community Survey.

Housing: Type (house, apartment, cave, boat, etc.), age, length of tenancy, acreage, farm income, business use, number of rooms, number of bedrooms, running water, flush toilet, bathtub or shower, sink with faucet, stove or range, refrigerator, telephone, number of vehicles, heating fuel, cost of electricity, gas, water&sewer, and other fuel; food stamps, condominium (and fee), rent (and whether board included), value, taxes, insurance, mortgage payments,

Population: Citizenship, and basis thereof; entry into USA, attending school and level, highest level of education completed,  ancestry, language spoken at home, residence location 1 year earlier, health insurance, deaf, blind, physical disabilities, marital status, recent motherhood, caring for grandchildren, military service, employment, commuting, laid off, productive or government worker, income, social security.

The long form was distributed to a large sample of households (10% to 20%) and was intended to ask all the annoying questions that would have made census participation plummet if asked of everyone.  It was intended to be a large enough sample to provide statistically reliable information for small areas (down to the block group, which has around 1000 persons).

The American Community Survey is administered on an ongoing basis, with a much smaller sample each month, but which when aggregated over 5 years produces a comparable sample size and accuracy to the long form.  The Census Bureau earlier this month released the ACS data for 2005 to 2009.   The Census Bureau also releases ACS data on 3-year and 1-year basis for larger areas (3-year data is statistically reliable for areas with population greater than 20,000; and the 1-year data for areas with population greater than 65,000).

Because the data is collected on a continuing basis, next year the ACS will be released for 2006 to 2010, with the oldest year of the sample being dropped and a new year added in.  So the ACS will be better for trends, while the long form census data, while clearer and more concise because it all is for a single data, won't show changes between decades, and because of unlucky timing might even be misleading (a 2010 long form would show higher levels of unemployment, and more persons in their mid-20s living with their parents).

So everything will still be covered, just in different format or different times? I had heard a while back that there would not be ancestry asked this decade. Yes or no?
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« Reply #242 on: February 13, 2011, 05:52:30 PM »

...though Allegheny did so by 0.2%

Hispanic share almost doubled - Hispanic population more than doubled. Black share also rose. State is now down to 55% Anglo.

The Prince George's County exurban outmigration continues.  The African-American population in neighboring Charles County nearly doubled, while the white population dropped by almost 10,000.  African-Americans make up about 41% of the county's population.   Whites are now barely a majority there, with 50.3%.   Whites continue to leave Prince George's County, too.

I wonder if this reflects the "syndrome" that whites don't want to live with blacks when their percentage in the hood gets "too high," or whether it is more due to differential hood housing demand, with blacks paying a premium to live in high percentage black neighborhoods that are safe and middle class, with decent schools. Does anyone know? Is this more about "racism" or economics is my question. And I have no idea, at least in this neck of the woods (in the deep South I just might assume racism frankly), what the answer is.

Part of it is that whites are leaving Maryland (and much of the Northeast, I suspect) for other areas of the country.  Maryland's non-Hispanic white population dropped by about 32,000 in the last 10 years.  Part is people moving from suburban Prince George's to new exurban developments in Charles County.  Since the overwhelming majority of Prince George's residents are black, it usually logically follows that those moving in to new developments up the road would be of the same race.  And a good part of it is probably simple white flight to other areas of Maryland.  The white population of Charles County's neighbors, St. Mary's and Calvert counties, both rose by over 10,000.

Is there data yet for which states had a net loss of whites?
You'll have to wait until all states are out. Or just go by the estimates. Tongue
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« Reply #243 on: February 13, 2011, 06:05:13 PM »

The congressional districts that appear to have lost population are (within state ordered from most declining):

AL-7
AR-4
CA-31, 53, 38, 47
FL-10
IL-4, 1, 2, 17, 7, 9, 6
IN-7, 6
IA-5
KS-1
LA-2, 3, 5
MI-14, 13, 5, 12, 1, 9, 15, 11
MN-4, 7
MS-2
MO-1
NE-3
NJ-10, 8
NY-28, 27, 24, 25, 26, 29
NC-1
OH-11, 10, 6, 17, 5, 1, 4
PA-14, 12, 5, 4, 2, 3
RI-1
SC-6
TN-9
VA-2
WV-3, 1

Most of which are self-explanatory (inner cities, black belt, plains, rust belt), but I was somewhat surprised at IL-6, VA-2, and FL-10.

The suburbs that make up IL-6 are essentially built out. There was a lot of housing built a generation ago, and the children have moved lot reducing the population. The growth areas occur when old properties have been removed for higher-density housing, but that is not a large factor in the last decade.
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« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2011, 12:07:34 AM »
« Edited: February 14, 2011, 12:10:21 AM by cinyc »

Is there data yet for which states had a net loss of whites?

You'll have to wait until all states are out. Or just go by the estimates. Tongue

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Of the states with released 2010 redistricting files so far, the total non-Hispanic white population fell from 2000 figures in Louisiana (-1.5%), Maryland (-2.6%) and New Jersey (-5.9%).  

It increased in Arkansas (+4.1%), Indiana (+2.0%), Iowa (+0.2%), Mississippi (+0.2%), Vermont (+1.3%) and Virginia (+5.6%).
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« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2011, 04:32:38 AM »

Not going to check all the others, but Mississippi's certainly fell (by 0.3). I noticed it at the time and doublechecked just right now.
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« Reply #246 on: February 14, 2011, 06:20:57 AM »

So everything will still be covered, just in different format or different times? I had heard a while back that there would not be ancestry asked this decade. Yes or no?
Only in the ACS (and it appears that they need the 5-year estimate to get sufficient data for ancestry).  For the 2005-2009 ACS, the top 50 congressional districts by percentage of Irish first ancestry.

Massachusetts 10    26.4%
Massachusetts 9     25.8%
Pennsylvania 7      22.3%
Massachusetts 6     19.3%
Pennsylvania 13     18.8%
Pennsylvania 8      18.4%
Massachusetts 7     17.3%
New York 1          16.8%
New York 3          16.8%
Massachusetts 5     16.1%
New York 19         15.8%
Massachusetts 3     15.7%
New York 20         15.5%
New Jersey 3        15.3%
New Jersey 1        15.3%
New Hampshire 1     15.2%
New York 21         14.7%
New Jersey 5        14.2%
Massachusetts 1     13.9%
Rhode Island 2      13.9%
New Jersey 4        13.9%
New Hampshire 2     13.7%
New York 25         13.7%
Massachusetts 4     13.4%
Connecticut 2       13.3%
Pennsylvania 11     13.3%
Massachusetts 2     13.1%
New York 22         12.9%
New Jersey 2        12.9%
New York 29         12.9%
New Jersey 11       12.8%
New York 24         12.8%
Maryland 1          12.5%
Delaware AL         12.5%
Pennsylvania 6      12.5%
New York 23         12.3%
Maine 1             12.3%
Ohio 10             12.1%
Pennsylvania 18     12.1%
Illinois 3          12.0%
Rhode Island 1      11.8%
New York 27         11.8%
Vermont AL          11.7%
Connecticut 5       11.7%
New York 2          11.7%
Connecticut 3       11.4%
Illinois 13         11.3%
Pennsylvania 10     11.3%
Missouri 2          11.2%
Kentucky 4          11.1%


Top Irish CD by State:

Alabama 4            9.9%
Alaska AL            7.6%
Arizona 8            8.3%
Arkansas 3           9.1%
California 6         9.4%
Colorado 6           9.2%
Connecticut 2       13.3%
Delaware AL         12.5%
Florida 10          10.9%
Georgia 9            9.0%
Hawaii 2             3.6%
Idaho 1              7.3%
Illinois 3          12.0%
Indiana 5            8.8%
Iowa 2               9.4%
Kansas 3             9.4%
Kentucky 4          11.1%
Louisiana 1          7.4%
Maine 1             12.3%
Maryland 1          12.5%
Massachusetts 10    26.4%
Michigan 8           8.7%
Minnesota 4          8.2%
Mississippi 1        9.3%
Missouri 2          11.2%
Montana AL          10.0%
Nebraska 2           9.9%
Nevada 2             7.9%
New Hampshire 1     15.2%
New Jersey 3        15.3%
New Mexico 1         5.2%
New York 1          16.8%
North Carolina 11    9.0%
North Dakota AL      3.9%
Ohio 10             12.1%
Oklahoma 3           8.7%
Oregon 4             8.3%
Pennsylvania 7      22.3%
Rhode Island 2      13.9%
South Carolina 3     7.8%
South Dakota AL      5.9%
Tennessee 7          8.9%
Texas 4              8.5%
Utah 2               4.4%
Vermont AL          11.7%
Virginia 10          8.4%
Washington 5         8.9%
West Virginia 3     10.5%
Wisconsin 2          7.6%
Wyoming AL           8.8%

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« Reply #247 on: February 14, 2011, 02:14:29 PM »
« Edited: February 14, 2011, 02:21:09 PM by cinyc »

Not going to check all the others, but Mississippi's certainly fell (by 0.3). I noticed it at the time and doublechecked just right now.

What are you looking at?  

I'm getting my data from Table 3 in the custom tables release by the Census bureau titled "Hispanic or Latino and Race Alone or in Combination - All Ages".  Mississippi's tables are available here, in Excel format.  That shows a gain of 4,149 non-Hispanic whites from 2000 to 2010, or 0.2%.  Those charts counts people who listed two races as members of both races, which probably explains the discrepancy.

Iowa (-0.3%) would flip to the negative growth side if you exclude those of two or more races, too.
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« Reply #248 on: February 14, 2011, 02:37:12 PM »

Yes, I was looking at the more standard Hispanic Origin and Race table (table 2). I suggest you do too. -_-
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« Reply #249 on: February 14, 2011, 07:46:45 PM »

Is there a schedule anywhere? I want Washington data! Sad
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