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« Reply #425 on: March 05, 2011, 07:52:18 AM »

Poor George... Bobby is the president!!! =)
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« Reply #426 on: March 05, 2011, 08:12:52 AM »

Poor George... Bobby is the president!!! =)

Not yet, & I won't say if he ever will be. He would need 9 more electoral votes to become President.
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« Reply #427 on: March 05, 2011, 09:23:12 AM »

Poor George... Bobby is the president!!! =)

Not yet, & I won't say if he ever will be. He would need 9 more electoral votes to become President.

I think he wins Hawaii, Washington, Oregon and maybe Nevada
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« Reply #428 on: March 06, 2011, 11:00:05 AM »

At this point, I just want to skip to the map and I may do that...
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« Reply #429 on: March 06, 2011, 11:42:35 AM »

To heck with it...
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« Reply #430 on: March 06, 2011, 11:46:30 AM »
« Edited: March 30, 2012, 08:23:15 PM by Cathcon »

The final results for the 1976 Presidential Election


Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote
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« Reply #431 on: March 06, 2011, 12:08:57 PM »

The final results for the 1976 Presidential Election


Senator Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD); 281 electoral votes, 53.2% of the popular vote
President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Ronald Reagan (R-CA); 257 electoral votes, 46.7% of the popular vote
Others; 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote

The PV seems a bit high..
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« Reply #432 on: March 06, 2011, 01:19:51 PM »

You're right. I'll change it kater given I'm doing this from my iPod.
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« Reply #433 on: March 06, 2011, 02:00:45 PM »

Changed.
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« Reply #434 on: March 06, 2011, 06:42:56 PM »

Excerpt from the Lyrics to "Massachusetts Uber Alles" by "The Nixons" (1978)

I am President RFK
I was elected to have my way
I'll do better than JFK
I'll do better than JFK

I am now President!
I'll do whatever I want
I can command all of you!
Your kids will worship Christ in school
Youre kids will worship Christ in school
Massachusetts! Uber Alles!
Massachusetts Ubera Alles!

...

Now it is the year 1980...
I am worshipped as deity...
I'm even better than FDR!
I am worshipped near and far!

Come quietly to the Church
Just kneel and pray and you won't get hurt
Just listen to me and I'll be nice
Just pray to Jesus Christ!

I've fulfilled the dreams of Papa Joe
Now that I'm in I'll never go
I'm only the second of the Kennedy!
Once we're in we'll never leave!
Once we're in we'll never leave!

Massachusetts! Uber Alles!
Massachusetts! Uber Alles!
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« Reply #435 on: March 06, 2011, 10:11:16 PM »

The Dead Kennedys are awesome...
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« Reply #436 on: March 07, 2011, 10:28:45 AM »

What a wonderful election map =)
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« Reply #437 on: March 07, 2011, 03:04:56 PM »

The lame duck period between the election and Kennedy's inauguration was spent mostly handling the Palestinian Conflict. George wished he had never sent Scoop, God rest his soul, into Palestine to try to resolve the conflict. However, no resolve seemed to come. Long, protracted talks with members of Congress, members of the National Security Council, and with outside sources gave way to nothing as more American troops died. Former Secretary of Defense and Arizona Senator-elect Barry Goldwater advised an all-or-nothing strategy where if George wasn't willing to send in everything the United States had, he should, in Barry's words "Get the Hell out". Others that George talked with included fellow Texan and former Secretary of Defense Senator John Connally who was a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee as well as several other committees relating to national security issues.

President Bush discussing the Palestinian Conflict with Senator John Connally (D-TX)

For Secretary of State Rockefeller, the conflict as well as the continued attempts to negotiate a "lasting peace" in the region, had taken a large toll. He suffered a heart condition and he had already told George that even if he won re-election, Rockefeller would resign and not accept another four years as Secretary of State.

A weary Secretary Rockefeller after hearing more idstressing news about the Palestinian situation

All in all, the lame duck period did not amount to much in terms of any type of progress. However, George and the rest did as well as they could to prepare the office for President-eelct Kennedy.
-What the Man was Made of, James Baker, (c) 1999
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« Reply #438 on: March 07, 2011, 08:16:38 PM »

Next, I hope to do the Senate maps as well as the Kennedy cabinet.
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« Reply #439 on: March 08, 2011, 06:49:10 PM »

1976 Senate Races

Democrats-59 (+3)
Republicans-39 (-3)
Independents-1
Conservatives-1

Notable Races
Arizona: Former Secretary of Defense Barry Goldwater is elected to his old seat. His replacement instead decided to run in 1980 to succeed Senator Paul Fannin who had won that seat in 1968.
California: Congressman Barry Goldwater Jr. is elected to the seat held by Ronald Reagan. Reagan, upon accepting the Vice-Presidential nomination, declined to run for re-election and Goldwater became the Republican nominee
Michigan: Senator George Romney faces a tough re-election campaign but is able to win in a close race.
Nevada: Senator Paul Laxalt is re-elected.
New York: Conservative Senator William F Buckley wins re-election beating Congresswoman Bella Abzug 52-48%
Ohio: Senator Robert Taft Jr. wins re-election in a close race.
Virginia: Independent Senator Robert Byrd wins re-election.
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« Reply #440 on: March 08, 2011, 06:50:22 PM »

I know it's kind of hackish, but I wanted Buckley to win re-election. With Moynihan elected Governor of New York in 1974, Bella Abzug, who in real life was favored to win the nomination and lose the general, does so.
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« Reply #441 on: March 09, 2011, 03:39:27 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2011, 09:02:07 AM by Working Man »

The Cabinet of President Robert F Kennedy (Part One)
(all excerpts taken from In My Defense by Robert F Kennedy, (c) 1984, except when attributed elsewhere)

Secretary of State
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Brzezinski, a political scientist as well as a professor and strategist, had been my choice because of his writings on a human rights based foreign policy that I intended to keep as one of the prime goals of my administration. Thurmond often complained about a "lack of experience" among certain members of my cabinet, Brzezinski being one of them. That claim was not true. Brzezinski as was mentioned previously had done diplomatic missions for the state department the last eight years and had even been called "Kennedy's diplomatic lap-dog" by Strom in 1971.
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Secretary of the Treasury
George Romney
Governor of Michigan 1963-1969
United States Senator from Michigan 1971-1977
A man experienced in business matters, as well as a man known for his commitment to helping the poor and the inner cities, Jack was not happy when he first heard us discussing George Romney for Treasury secretary. Jack and he hadn't gotten off on the right foot as they had been opponents in the 1968 Presidential election. However, as long as Jack was in Massachusetts, the relationship wouldn't be a problem. However, the economy would.

Secretary of Defense
Jimmy Carter
Georgia State Senator from the 14th District 1963-1967
Member of the United States House of Representatives from Georgia's 3rd District 1967-1971
Governor of Georgia 1971-1975
Despite being a primary opponent only the year before, Jimmy and I got along just fine. His congeniality, his good relationship with Brzezinski and my staff, as well as his military record were deciding factors in the choice of him for Secretary of Defense. Also, his four year role in the House Armed Services Committee wasn't a negative in the decision to appoint him Secretary of Defense.

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Attorney General
Edward Brooke
Massachusetts Attorney General 1963-1966
United States Senator from Massachusetts 1967-1973
United States Attorney General 1974-Present
In order to keep peaceful relations in Washington, I didn't change every cabinet position. Edward Brooke, a man who four years ago I had opposed for Senate, I decided to let stay on as he had served dutifully as Attorney General the last three years.
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« Reply #442 on: March 09, 2011, 07:48:45 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2011, 08:15:15 PM by Working Man »

The Cabinet of President Robert F Kennedy (Part Two)
(All excerpts are taken from In My Defense, by Robert F Kennedy (c) 1984 except when attributed elseqhere

Secretary of the Interior
Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency 1970-1973
Nader had been considered for the position of Secretary of the Interior only because of his previous experience as EPA Administrator. I personally had been cautious with his pick, however he had served well in his previous role in Jack's Administration and I felt that with the new position he could become more pragmatic and his streak of radical environmentalism would cool.

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Secretary of Commerce
Robert McNamara
United States Secretary of the Treasury 1965-1973
McNamara was Jack's favorite for Secretary of the Treasury for the obvious reason that he had served faithfully for eight previous years. However, I instead handed Treasury off to George Romney. In reward for his hard work, however, as well as an acknowledgment of his business experience, I named him Secretary of Commerce

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Secretary of Labor
Joe Biden
Member of New Castle County Council 1971-1973
Congressman from Delaware's At-Large Congressional District 1975-1977
Joe Biden was one of the fresh new faces that I wanted in my administration. However, unlike other members of my cabinet, he wasn't as moderate and known more as a "Labor Liberal". Despite that, he had supported me in my Presidential bid and I felt he would be competent as Secretary of Labor.

Secretary of Agriculture
Bill Clinton
Congressman from Arkansas' 3rd Congressional District 1975-1977
Another of my "fresh faces", I had befriended "Slick Willy" in Congress and he had become a member of the faction being known as the "New Democrats". He, like me was economically moderate and shared much of the same goals in regard to poverty and welfare.

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Secretary of Health and Human Services
R Sargent Shriver
Director of Central Interlligence 1965-1967, 1967-1973
A family friend and my brother-in-law, Sargent had successfully headed three Kennedy Presidential campaigns beginning in 1964, and had also succesfully headed the CIA during those dark and dirty years of the late sixties. I knew that he needed a cabinet spot and Health and Human Services proved to be just the right place for him.

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« Reply #443 on: March 09, 2011, 08:40:19 PM »

The Cabinet of President Robert F Kennedy (Part Three)
(all excerpts are taken from In My Defense by Robert F Kennedy, (c) 1984 except when attribute elsewhere)

Secretary of Education
Terry Sanford
Governor of North Carolina 1961-1965
Vice-President of the United States of America 1965-1973
Terry, with his experience in education as well as his role in domestic policy during Jack's cabinet, I had wanted from the beginning to join the team. In the Department of Education, whose creation he had spear-headed in the days of the Great Society, I felt that he was best qualified and most deserving.

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Shirley Chisholm
Congresswoman from New York's 12th Congressional District 1969-1977
Shirley Chisholm, a Congresswoman representing an urban part of New York, was perfect for the job of heading the department of Housing and Urban Development. She, like many in the cabinet, had a commitment to the poor at heart and would serve out here duties to the greatest of her abilities, and that was a lot. She would be one of the leaders of my domestic team on welfare reform in the coming years.

Secretary of Transportation
Kevin H White
Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth 1961-1967
Mayor of Boston, Massachusetts 1968-1977
I was obviously accused of regional as well as religious nepotism for the pick of Kevin White for Transportation. However, his over eight years of experience as Boston's Mayor led him to being one of the most qualified for the job. Of note only later was the fact that the Rolling Stones' "Riot Concert" occured under his watch. However, that is a story for another chapter.
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« Reply #444 on: March 09, 2011, 08:41:59 PM »

Of note is when Keith Richards was caught for drug use (then later acquitted) in Arkansas. I always intended to include that when I got around to 1974, but forgot when I needed it. I'll find some way to work the Stones in later though and maby include som back story on what happened.
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« Reply #445 on: March 10, 2011, 07:18:38 PM »

In inner-cities across America the poverty rate is increasing, the high-school drop out rate is increasing, the amount of children born out of wedlock is increasing. Through smart and careful steps of welfare reform, we in the Kennedy administration are working to end these ails and to, eh, restore peace and prosperity to the urban environment. Over my tenure as Secretary Treasury I will be working closely with Secretaries Sanford, Chisholm, and Shriver, as well as with former Education Secretary Elizabeth Dole to ensure that these goals are met.
-Treasury Secretary George Romney; February 19th, 1977

Defense Secretary Jimmy Carter and labor Secretary Joe Biden after a Whitehouse cabinet meeting
Over the next four years, my focus as Secretary of Defense will be on bringing American boys home from Palestine, nuclear arms control, and on helping to spread human rights throughout the globe.
-Defense Secretary Jimmy Carter; February 3rd, 1977

We have continued to see the rate for the average worker go down during the Agnew/Bush years. Also, beginning last year, there has been a noticable trade deficit. Those are two problems that I, along with of course the President, will aim to solve.
-Labor Secretary Joe Biden; March 1st, 1976
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« Reply #446 on: March 11, 2011, 10:56:23 AM »
« Edited: March 11, 2011, 02:48:59 PM by JulioMadrid »

what an awewsome cabinet!
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« Reply #447 on: March 12, 2011, 12:57:49 PM »

"Massachusetts Uber Alles" just killed me Grin
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« Reply #448 on: March 12, 2011, 04:08:43 PM »

"Massachusetts Uber Alles" just killed me Grin

Any Uber Alles is funny. Especially when it involves a far-right state regime's attempt to overthrow the American way of life.
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« Reply #449 on: March 13, 2011, 10:05:57 AM »

Thanks for all of your comments! I'm glad you like the timeline (if you do).
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