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Question: Should I go on?
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I don't care
 
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« Reply #275 on: January 16, 2011, 09:11:40 PM »

Excuse me, nineteen missing electoral votes. There were 537 at the time.

Another correction. I forgot about the faithless elector that voted Libertarian.
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« Reply #276 on: January 16, 2011, 09:12:13 PM »

I found the missing 20 votes! Now, I am free to continue.
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« Reply #277 on: January 16, 2011, 09:24:02 PM »

November 7th, 1972; Much, Much Later
    David Brinkley: Well, with this latest round of callings, we are one step closer to declaring the President. As everybody knows but often forgets, poll closings are staggered based on the time zone of the state that is being voted in. Now, we are able to make a few more calls.


Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George Bush (R-TX); 259 electoral votes
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN); 229 electoral votes
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 0 electoral votes
Too close to call; 43 electoral votes
Still polling; 7 electoral votes

    John Chancellor: By now, unless the election is thrown to the House of Representatives, it is deemed impossible for Congressman Schmitz to be elected President. However, the Deep South is still up for grabs, and it is believed that there, in a tight three-way race, he may win. In some exit polling, he's above Vice-President Sanford in at least one state. For Vice-President Sanford, it will be hard as well, given that he will have to win nearly every remaining state to win the election. However, not every state is friendly to him. It appears this toss up election is getting closer and closer to the end.
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« Reply #278 on: January 16, 2011, 09:27:40 PM »

No Schmitz upset, but hopefully we're getting closer and closer to an Agnew Administration Cheesy.

(One little nitpick: wouldn't Hawaii's polls be closed by this time?)
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« Reply #279 on: January 16, 2011, 09:31:35 PM »

Great round of updates, buddy! I wish we could've had Reagan as the GOP nominee though. Sad
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« Reply #280 on: January 16, 2011, 09:49:45 PM »

No Schmitz upset, but hopefully we're getting closer and closer to an Agnew Administration Cheesy.

(One little nitpick: wouldn't Hawaii's polls be closed by this time?)

I'm not sure on the time zone and poll closings. If Hawaii's polls did close, for me it's a matter of more than just editing the map code, I have to go back into paint, edit the file, load it onto the galler again, etc. However, Hawaii and Alaska will be in the second update. Schmitz and Agnew are on the way also.

Great round of updates, buddy! I wish we could've had Reagan as the GOP nominee though. Sad

Thanks. Don't worry, though. Things will change (not necessarily for the better). You'll see Reagan's fate.
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« Reply #281 on: January 16, 2011, 10:04:20 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2011, 10:13:45 AM by Cathcon »

November 7th, 1972
    John Chancellor: Well, we are ready to project two very important things. For the first one, Governor Spiro T Agnew will be our next President come November. With the latest round of callings, he has surpassed the 270 mark and is our President-elect.
Governor Spiro T Agnew of Maryland - Our President-Elect
How will he do?

...And, while less important, more interestingly, Congressman John Schmitz has won pluralities of the popular vote in Mississippi and Alabama. Out of the sixteen electoral votes that Mississippi and Alabama have to offer, two faithless electors voted for Vice-President Terry Sanford. That puts the Congressman at fourteen. However, in Louisiana, where a plurality voted for Agnew, four of its ten electors have voted for Schmitz, giving Schmitz eighteen electoral votes altogether. Let's bring up the map...

Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George Bush (R-TX); 275 electoral votes
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN); 238 electoral votes
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes
Still Polling; 7 electoral votes

...With seven electoral votes to go, it is predicted that Hawaii will easily go to Sanford and Alaska will go to Agnew. However, the result is that Agnew will be our next President.
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« Reply #282 on: January 16, 2011, 10:05:11 PM »

Coming up is the complete map that includes delegates and popular vote. However, the may have to wait until tomorrow.
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« Reply #283 on: January 16, 2011, 10:11:09 PM »

For the record...


The "complete map" I hope to put up late tomorrow. I'll most likely be busy much of the day.
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« Reply #284 on: January 16, 2011, 10:59:00 PM »
« Edited: January 16, 2011, 11:02:46 PM by Robespierre's Jaw »



282-240-16

Though I was expecting something, more or less along these lines...



298-240

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« Reply #285 on: January 16, 2011, 11:22:15 PM »

Thanks, though I might do one with popular vote, and showing the faithless electors.

Any other opinions?
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« Reply #286 on: January 16, 2011, 11:37:28 PM »

What was the popular vote? 49-47-3?
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« Reply #287 on: January 16, 2011, 11:41:51 PM »

Thanks, though I might do one with popular vote, and showing the faithless electors.

Remember this when editing and/or creating EV maps:

1=Democratic
2=Republican
3=Green
4=Yellow

It's how I was able to include the Schmitz totals Smiley \

Though splitting Louisana, or any state that's split their EV totals, I would assume, would be quite a bitch. But it's close enough!


Even more changes would be nice; perhaps more reference to international affairs. You could worsen the 1970s shitstorm - always a fun thought!
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« Reply #288 on: January 17, 2011, 12:57:38 AM »

YES! Smiley
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« Reply #289 on: January 17, 2011, 09:04:27 AM »
« Edited: January 17, 2011, 09:34:57 AM by Cathcon »

Thanks, though I might do one with popular vote, and showing the faithless electors.

Remember this when editing and/or creating EV maps:

1=Democratic
2=Republican
3=Green
4=Yellow

It's how I was able to include the Schmitz totals Smiley \

Though splitting Louisana, or any state that's split their EV totals, I would assume, would be quite a bitch. But it's close enough!

Antonio V taught me how to transfer a map to paint, and that's what I did for this election, because I thought it would be too much of a pain to edit the map code for every update. My intention was to have the more Conservative independents, like Wallace, Schmitz, and Thurmond, in Brown/Orange. However, the Orange option on my paint, as you can see, sucked.

My plan for the "complete" map is to edit the 1972 map, and then to copy it to paint for the final touches before putting it up.

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Even more changes would be nice; perhaps more reference to international affairs. You could worsen the 1970s shitstorm - always a fun thought!
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Oh, I do love the 1970's shitstorm. I'm going to try to go more into the Middle East. Right now, the major international difference is victory in Vietnam. This does more than just mean America isn't disgraced, it also makes America more confident, and as of now, we have no urge to practice detente.
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« Reply #290 on: January 17, 2011, 09:36:19 AM »


I'll hopefluly get to that soon.
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« Reply #291 on: January 17, 2011, 10:04:41 AM »

I'm afraid posting a final map will be harder than I thought. When you take the EV calculator map and convert it, edit it, and try to put it in the gallery an error occurs. I could always edit the map code, but that would count for faithless electors.
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« Reply #292 on: January 17, 2011, 10:20:19 AM »

The "Official" Map


Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Senator George HW Bush (R-TX); 278 electoral votes, 48.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC)/Senate Minority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); 242 electoral votes, 46.1% of the popular vote
Congressman John Schmitz (I-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (I-OH); 18 electoral votes; 4.7% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian, People's); 0 electoral votes, .3% of the popular vote
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« Reply #293 on: January 17, 2011, 10:23:24 AM »

I wonder how HWBush's attainment of the Vice Presidency in 1972 will effect him and his son's future.
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« Reply #294 on: January 17, 2011, 10:42:59 AM »

I wonder how HWBush's attainment of the Vice Presidency in 1972 will effect him and his son's future.

We shall see...

Coming up, sometime during the week or maybe even later today, the Senate results.
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« Reply #295 on: January 17, 2011, 12:01:13 PM »

I'm afraid posting a final map will be harder than I thought. When you take the EV calculator map and convert it, edit it, and try to put it in the gallery an error occurs. I could always edit the map code, but that would count for faithless electors.

Maybe it wasn't the right format. I think the AF gallery only accept PNG pictures if I well remember.
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« Reply #296 on: January 17, 2011, 02:04:00 PM »

I'm afraid posting a final map will be harder than I thought. When you take the EV calculator map and convert it, edit it, and try to put it in the gallery an error occurs. I could always edit the map code, but that would count for faithless electors.

Maybe it wasn't the right format. I think the AF gallery only accept PNG pictures if I well remember.

Yeah. How do you convert that?
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« Reply #297 on: January 17, 2011, 02:23:01 PM »

I'm afraid posting a final map will be harder than I thought. When you take the EV calculator map and convert it, edit it, and try to put it in the gallery an error occurs. I could always edit the map code, but that would count for faithless electors.

Maybe it wasn't the right format. I think the AF gallery only accept PNG pictures if I well remember.

Yeah. How do you convert that?

It depends to how you save your pic. Normally, when you click on "save as" and get the window to choose where you save it, you have, below the file name, a list of different formats (bmp, jpg, png...).
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« Reply #298 on: January 17, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »

The 1972 Senate Elections:



Dark Blue: Republican Hold
Light Blue: Republican gain
Dark Red: Democratic Hold
Light Red: Democratic Gain

Notable Races:
Massachusetts: United States Attorney General Robert F Kennedy beats out one term Liberal Republican Edward Brooke. In January, two Kennedys will represent the state of Massachusetts in the Senate. Previously, Robert F Kennedy was Governor of Massachusetts from 1963 to 1965.
Maine: Senator Margaret Chase Smith wins re-election. After finishing here tenure as Secretary of State in 1965, Smith spent the next two years mounting a campaign to get back in the Senate, which she pulled off successfully in 1966.
Texas: Defense Secretary John Connally (D) beats Governor John Toweer (R). Tower, though a successful Republican, is unable to beat out the popular former Governor. Connally will be replacing his mentor Senator Lyndon Johnson in 1973. Johnson, who has served as Senate Majority Leader in the past, chose to retire.
Rhode Island: Former Governor John Chaffee successfully beats Senator Claiborne Pell.
South Carolina: Democrat Strom Thurmond is re-elected.
North Carolina: Democrat Jesse Helms is elected to the Senate.
Minnesota: Upon accepting the Vice-Presidential nomination, Humphrey decided not to run for re-election to his Senate seat. Congressman Walter Mondale was easily nominated and is easily elected in the Democratic state.
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« Reply #299 on: January 17, 2011, 02:41:44 PM »

I'm afraid posting a final map will be harder than I thought. When you take the EV calculator map and convert it, edit it, and try to put it in the gallery an error occurs. I could always edit the map code, but that would count for faithless electors.

Maybe it wasn't the right format. I think the AF gallery only accept PNG pictures if I well remember.

Yeah. How do you convert that?

It depends to how you save your pic. Normally, when you click on "save as" and get the window to choose where you save it, you have, below the file name, a list of different formats (bmp, jpg, png...).

Thanks. I'll try that.
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