A Second Chance - CONCLUSION

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Man, if this election is between McCarthy and Hatfield this will be one of the best elections ever.

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No, not happening.

Historically, when these two squared off in Massachusetts back in '68, McCarthy absolutely spanked him, sweeping every single Congressional District.

Here's some data,

McCarthy - 49.25%
Kennedy - 27.56%
Others - (will provide upon request)

So no, even if Kennedy were to beat McCarthy in MA, it would not have been a wipe-out, unless there is something severe that I missed.

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Very solid and diverse line-up in the Reagan administration. I'll go out on a limb and say that Buckley's confirmation hearings were quite heated, though he's quick enough on his feet to do alright.

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For the Record
1980 Republican Primary popular vote map

Blue-Governor Ronald Wilson Reagan of California
Green-Senator Mark Odom Hatfield of Oregon
Red-Senator Howard Henry Baker Jr. of Tennessee

1980 Democratic Primary popular vote map

Red-President Robert F. Kennedy of Massachusetts
Green-Former Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota

This is really great stuff, Cathcon. My only question is who were the other candidates in New Hampshire, to get Reagan down to 20%? (Forgive my ignorance.) Flawless work on the primary maps.

Also, thrilled to see Howard Dean as a leading Republican in this timeline. Latte libertarianism at its finest.

Keep up the good work.

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Just need to revise the year a little.

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Just need to revise the year a little.

Did hatfield ever run for president as more than a favorite son?

More appropriately, did Hatfield ever run? (Pretty sure I already know the answer)

Hatfield has cut the deficit by more than half from when Reagan first entered office.

Anyway, as for the Libertarians, the ticket is:
Kingswood Township Committeeman Richard P. Siano (L-NJ)/Activist James A. Lewis (L-CT)

There isn't a wikipedia page on Siano, but he was elected a Kingswood Township, New Jersey, Committeeman in a special election in 1981, both in this and in real life. That's according to wikipedia's "History of the Libertarian Party". Any other third party questions?

No, but there were still fanfare buttons for him, as there are with many candidates. For instance:



(It is worth noting that some time in the late 60's he appeared with WFB, who as absolutely gushing over him in the introduction saying he'd have been President were he from a state with more clout than Oregon.)

Anyway, what is the status of the Libertarian Party ITTL, insofar as their base and which wing has prominence? Are they distraught neoconservatives like John Hospers and Bob Barr or are they of the Lee Wrights/David Bergland variety? (I can't imagine them as much of a conduit for the cosmo-libertarians like Ed Clark/Gary Johnson.)

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Spectacular as always Cathcon, maybe we will see a "New South" coalition for the Republican Party.

Hatfield is somewhat obliged to endorse Warner, were he to run for President, but I imagine there will be a lot of heartburn over foreign policy, putting both of them in an odd spot.

Just keep doing what you do.

What are John Silber, Michael Dukakis and Bill Weld up to?

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You never disappoint, Cathcon. I wonder if Democrat John McCain enjoys a relationship with Bob Stump similar to Goldwater's with Paul Fannin.

What are Terry Goddard, Evan Mecham, and Bill Schulz up to ITTL?

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It looks as if I correctly prognosticated the Moynihan victory (in private) but the Anderson victory was a bit of a surprise! I guess it speaks to President Hatfield's personal popularity that he was able to assist in his victory.

I also wonder if Buckley actually did better in NYC than in Upstate New York.