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« on: November 29, 2010, 01:38:05 PM »

Truth-telling. It's illegal in the U.S. now, isn't it?
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 03:34:47 PM »

Truth-telling. It's illegal in the U.S. now, isn't it?

Only if the intent is to injure the U.S....... Roll Eyes

Sure, the emperor doesn't like being told he's got no clothes.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 06:12:33 PM »

Truth-telling. It's illegal in the U.S. now, isn't it?

Robert Hanssen was just telling the truth... would you defend what he did?
The two cases aren't comparable. Hanssen was feeding secrets to a supposed enemy nation for money and personal again. Assange and WikiLeaks are simply releasing information that all of the world has the right to know.

Of course I don't really care about the espionage games the two evil empires liked to play during the Cold War anyway. It just serves to illustrate what a joke the State is as an institution, Russian or American, capitalist or socialist.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 08:39:05 PM »

Truth-telling. It's illegal in the U.S. now, isn't it?

Robert Hanssen was just telling the truth... would you defend what he did?
The two cases aren't comparable. Hanssen was feeding secrets to a supposed enemy nation for money and personal again. Assange and WikiLeaks are simply releasing information that all of the world has the right to know.

Of course I don't really care about the espionage games the two evil empires liked to play during the Cold War anyway. It just serves to illustrate what a joke the State is as an institution, Russian or American, capitalist or socialist.

You simplified this to "truth-telling", or, telling something that is true.  That's all Robert Hanssen did... he just did "truth-telling" in secret.

And? I don't believe the State should have secrets (or exist, but that's another issue).

Hanssen does not deserve praise for funneling secrets to the Soviets in order to procure wealth for himself. Assange, on the other hand, is commendable for revealing truth to the world.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 09:16:08 PM »

The state shouldn't exist?  Pure anarchy doesn't work.

Well it does, but that's not the pertinent issue here. Let's focus on why the State is addicted to committing crimes and then arresting people for exposing said crimes.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 09:45:54 PM »

The state shouldn't exist?  Pure anarchy doesn't work.

Well it does, but that's not the pertinent issue here. Let's focus on why the State is addicted to committing crimes and then arresting people for exposing said crimes.

What crimes were committed as evidenced by this release of documents?

Well if they didn't do anything wrong, then what is there to hide?

Isn't that the excuse the government itself constantly uses to justify invading the privacy of its citizens?
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 12:53:34 AM »

The state shouldn't exist?  Pure anarchy doesn't work.

Well it does, but that's not the pertinent issue here. Let's focus on why the State is addicted to committing crimes and then arresting people for exposing said crimes.

What crimes were committed as evidenced by this release of documents?

Well if they didn't do anything wrong, then what is there to hide?

National security secrets.  You realize that your logic for "if they didn't do anything wrong, what is there to hid" is the argument that some governments have used to pry into civilians lives...

If you didn't cut out half his post you would have seen he was making a point. Tongue

I don't even remember cutting that out... or seeing it when I responded to it.

I promise you it was there in the original post; I never edited it. Wink
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