POLL: Does the federal government care about the economy?

[Purple State]

I'm just saying...

STOCK MARKET FALLS SHARPLY

(AMPG) After gradually dropping most of the previous two weeks, the ANSE Index declined heavily on Friday to 742.30. This is a drop of almost 90 points, or more than 10% of the Index's value, in just under two weeks. 37.23 points were lost on the Index on Friday alone before the closing bell ended what traders were calling "Black Friday". When pointed out that Black Friday already referred to the start of the 1929 Stock Market Crash, traders amended their description of the event to "a really sh$%ty day".

Comments from market leaders were unavailable, as the persons contacted by the AMPG were either crying to hard to understand, incomprehensibly drunk, or were reported by secretaries to have thrown themselves from their office windows.

BREAKING NEWS: STOCK MARKET IN FREEFALL MONDAY.

(AMPG) Stocks suffered an historic single day declines as the ANSE Index dropped 53.12 points Monday before closing at 689.18. The loss of over 7% comes on the heels of a decline of more than 37 points on Friday, resulting in a two day cumulative loss of over 11.5% of the market's value.

Initial reports do not indicate any specific transaction or weak sector of the market, as losses were largely uniform. Nervous investors are awaiting the ANSE opening on Wednesday.

The federal government hasn't even acknowledged this issue. Sure, there has been gradual discussion of a possible new stimulus, but those discussions started before the latest weakness and have gone not far not fast.

So...Bueller?...Bueller?...

[Purple State]

It's good to see President Fritz and SoIA Dr. Cynic fully engaged on the issue and working with the regions.

I would urge PPT NCY to propose legislation and bring it to the floor immediately under the emergency slot based on the current funding requests by regions, plus whatever needs the federal government faces. Though the Northeast and Pacific have not yet responded to the SoIA's request, those can be amended into the bill quickly during debate, but any legislation will take 72 hours to come to a vote, so the clock should start sooner, not later.

[Purple State]

It's good to see President Fritz and SoIA Dr. Cynic fully engaged on the issue and working with the regions.

I would urge PPT NCY to propose legislation and bring it to the floor immediately under the emergency slot based on the current funding requests by regions, plus whatever needs the federal government faces. Though the Northeast and Pacific have not yet responded to the SoIA's request, those can be amended into the bill quickly during debate, but any legislation will take 72 hours to come to a vote, so the clock should start sooner, not later.

If thats the case why don't I just introduce the bill I made to "start the clock". If that is the concern, I could do that right now. Otherwise it will be tomorrow afternoon to add in the current requests.

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So I guess I still have some good ideas, even in retirement.

It's the job of past presidents to hold your feet to the fire.

[Purple State]

It's good to see President Fritz and SoIA Dr. Cynic fully engaged on the issue and working with the regions.

I would urge PPT NCY to propose legislation and bring it to the floor immediately under the emergency slot based on the current funding requests by regions, plus whatever needs the federal government faces. Though the Northeast and Pacific have not yet responded to the SoIA's request, those can be amended into the bill quickly during debate, but any legislation will take 72 hours to come to a vote, so the clock should start sooner, not later.

If thats the case why don't I just introduce the bill I made to "start the clock". If that is the concern, I could do that right now. Otherwise it will be tomorrow afternoon to add in the current requests.

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So I guess I still have some good ideas, even in retirement.

It's the job of past presidents to hold your feet to the fire.

As I posted in the thread, you better pray it takes less then 72 hours to complete it and go to a vote.

The nation will pray with me. This economy needs a boost now. If the Senate can't get its act together sooner...

[Purple State]

It's good to see President Fritz and SoIA Dr. Cynic fully engaged on the issue and working with the regions.

I would urge PPT NCY to propose legislation and bring it to the floor immediately under the emergency slot based on the current funding requests by regions, plus whatever needs the federal government faces. Though the Northeast and Pacific have not yet responded to the SoIA's request, those can be amended into the bill quickly during debate, but any legislation will take 72 hours to come to a vote, so the clock should start sooner, not later.

If thats the case why don't I just introduce the bill I made to "start the clock". If that is the concern, I could do that right now. Otherwise it will be tomorrow afternoon to add in the current requests.

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So I guess I still have some good ideas, even in retirement.

It's the job of past presidents to hold your feet to the fire.

Who was the first Senator to notice and acknowlege SoIA Cynic's request for a publics works bill?

Who was the first to actually write a bill up in response despite it being Thanksgiving weekend?

I take your statements as an insult.

A bill would have been in by tomorrow or Friday at the absolute latest with text and been finished by early next week. Which is actually quite fast compared to recent bills. However you felt the need to offer your idea that clock be started as soon as possible to avoid letting the 72 hours (something which I doubt would have been an issue) get in the way of a final vote, which is fine, but it doesn't give you the right to insult my efforts by saying that you need to hold me accountable.

As you should.

Actually, I just like letting you all know I'm still alive. This hall of presidents past is quite lonely.

[Purple State]

I advised the last administration in my capacity as SoIA to consider funding a public works and infrastructure program. No action was taken on those suggestions. If this has contributed in any way to the economic climate then some responsibilty should be laid at the feet of the former President

To be fair, I was hoping your recommendation would have led a senator (you know, the one's generally responsible for writing legislation) to actually write up legislation. Sometimes I forget why we have a Senate. *looks back at my own poll* oh yeah.

Maro and I could only write so much legislation among our other duties (note how many of the laws passed under my watch were actually written by members of my administration).

[Purple State]

I advised the last administration in my capacity as SoIA to consider funding a public works and infrastructure program. No action was taken on those suggestions. If this has contributed in any way to the economic climate then some responsibilty should be laid at the feet of the former President

To be fair, I was hoping your recommendation would have led a senator (you know, the one's generally responsible for writing legislation) to actually write up legislation. Sometimes I forget why we have a Senate. *looks back at my own poll* oh yeah.

Maro and I could only write so much legislation among our other duties (note how many of the laws passed under my watch were actually written by members of my administration).

Is that kind of like a "faith based health care plan" (basically you pray to god you don't get sick) only here, hoping a Senator will write legislation?

Perhaps PMing some of them would have been more effective, just like getting a real health care plan instead of praying you don't get sick.

I've noticed most senators have also given up writing amendments. They are much better at demanding changes and letting others write those up for them.

[Purple State]

It's good to see President Fritz and SoIA Dr. Cynic fully engaged on the issue and working with the regions.

I would urge PPT NCY to propose legislation and bring it to the floor immediately under the emergency slot based on the current funding requests by regions, plus whatever needs the federal government faces. Though the Northeast and Pacific have not yet responded to the SoIA's request, those can be amended into the bill quickly during debate, but any legislation will take 72 hours to come to a vote, so the clock should start sooner, not later.

If thats the case why don't I just introduce the bill I made to "start the clock". If that is the concern, I could do that right now. Otherwise it will be tomorrow afternoon to add in the current requests.

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So I guess I still have some good ideas, even in retirement.

It's the job of past presidents to hold your feet to the fire.

As I posted in the thread, you better pray it takes less then 72 hours to complete it and go to a vote.

The nation will pray with me. This economy needs a boost now. If the Senate can't get its act together sooner...

tick..tick..tick..tick..tick...

We're waiting...

[Purple State]

Yank, we are waiting on the Senate to get its act together. That you were right is exactly what is wrong.

[Purple State]

Yank, we are waiting on the Senate to get its act together. That you were right is exactly what is wrong.

I just want to add to this that NCY is clearly doing all he can to get the Senate to do...anything. I'm not quite sure why the other senators ran, but I thought the point of the game was to play. Election to the Senate isn't a Chance card that reads "Go directly to jail."

I'm also happy to see portions of the executive keeping the ball rolling, but I think it's high time for an "all-of-executive" approach. Stuff just doesn't get done unless people with important-sounding titles make some noise.

[Purple State]

Yank, we are waiting on the Senate to get its act together. That you were right is exactly what is wrong.

I just want to add to this that NCY is clearly doing all he can to get the Senate to do...anything. I'm not quite sure why the other senators ran, but I thought the point of the game was to play. Election to the Senate isn't a Chance card that reads "Go directly to jail."

I'm also happy to see portions of the executive keeping the ball rolling, but I think it's high time for an "all-of-executive" approach. Stuff just doesn't get done unless people with important-sounding titles make some noise.

I think I've been quite an active Senator PS, I've just been doing work on other bills and I still don't understand what exactly we are supposed to do about that economic collapse Badger put out because I don't think it was adequetly explained.  It seemed that it happened because investors got nervous and it is kind of hard to legislate that.

I'm taking aim at the Senate as a whole, but clearly there are some senators that are far worse offenders than you, HW.

[Purple State]

Bringing this thread back on topic...

Seriously, the markets have been in freakout mode for over two weeks and there has been no substantive actions taken by the federal government? It may not seem like much, but from a former GM watching the current one, it looks like Badger is entering the "Why won't they listen to me!!1!" mode.

The time for letting the Senate get its act together on a crisis response package has passed. PPT Yank, SoIA Dr. Cynic and President Fritz should just sit down, hammer out a package and push it through in an expedited process. The governors and senators have given their input and there is more than enough information available to put together a robust package right now that takes all the necessary interests into account.