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Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort
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« on: May 08, 2014, 04:10:40 PM »

In reality, Republicans picked up senate seats in six states, Democrats two.

-Let's say Tom Daschle scraped by with a 2002 Tim Johnson-style victory.
-John Breaux ran for reelection and won in Louisiana.
-Zell Miller (ew) ran for reelection and won in Georgia.
-Bob Graham ran for reelection and won in Florida.
-John Edwards wasn't on the VP ticket and won reelection in North Carolina.

Senate Republican Majority at 50-50, with Cheney the tie-breaking vote.

How large and bloated does the Democratic majority get between the 2006 and 2010 elections?
How is the 111th Congress different with Daschle as leader as opposed to Reid?
How hard is it to corral Zell Miller into voting for Obamacare? Or will his vote not be needed?
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2014, 04:55:27 PM »

You're assumptions about Miller and Edwards are stretches, to say the least.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2014, 05:11:47 PM »

I don't think Miller was ever happy in the Senate, considering he threw fellow Dems like Kerry and others under the bus.

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Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2014, 05:21:14 PM »

You're assumptions about Miller and Edwards are stretches, to say the least.
I know Edwards' seat would have flipped anyway, he barely won election in 1998 I think. And Zell Miller was a loose cannon, he was basically a Republican through and through. Pretty much useless to Democrats in the senate.

But this is a "what-if" scenario, after all.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 05:26:08 PM »

If Breaux ran again, I assume that there would have been a cleared field for Dems, while Vitter and 2 other Republicans ran against him.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2014, 06:00:31 PM »

I don't see a whole lot changing.  If you added one more surprise Dem win so that they control the senate in 2004-06, that would be huge for the Supreme Court.

If Democrats were at 50-50 in 2005, and 2006/08 proceeded as in reality (a reasonable assumption with full Republican control of the government still in place in 2006), Democrats would be at 64 in 1/2009.  Specter probably never switches parties.  Obamacare would be both less controversial and more liberal in this world because it would be treated as inevitable with that many Dem senators.  More economic legislation would also have passed, likely aiding the recovery during 2009-10 and making 2010 less of an R wave.  But they would be tempted to ratify a climate treaty with help from Snowe, Collins and Specter and I don't think that would end well for them.

There could easily be a 60D/40R Senate in 2013 with a very Republican House which would be quite bizarre. 
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