US House Redistricting: Missouri

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.

[krazen1211]

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.

Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.

Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.

The only source I keep hearing from is that notpjorourke guy with his super-leet insider information, but I can believe that it was drawn to protect Cleaver from a primary challenge. I do think his "Cleaver would lose a general election in a Jackson County district" thing is BS, though.

[Dgov]

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.

Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.

They might be more Republican.  The rural territory it adds is only ~53% McCain, and it takes in Ike Skelton's home (which is probably the biggest reason).  Also, i'm willing to bet the suburban area of Jackson county in the district is more reliably Republican than the rural areas that kept skelton in office.

[krazen1211]

They might be more Republican.  The rural territory it adds is only ~53% McCain, and it takes in Ike Skelton's home (which is probably the biggest reason).  Also, i'm willing to bet the suburban area of Jackson county in the district is more reliably Republican than the rural areas that kept skelton in office.

Could be. That's partially what leads me to believe that Nixon might actually sign the map, especially if Clay/Cleaver want him to.

Now that we're past the veto-override deadline, the GOP has another 2 weeks or so to get something passed.

[bloombergforpresident]

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.

Yeah the area around Town and Country is but you can find some smaller suburbs that are more swing.

[they don't love you like i love you]

LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.

[Dgov]

LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.

Well, i think they were planning this map before they beat him in 2010, but either way its a safe move.  No sense wasting republican votes in MO-5 when they can be used elsewhere.

[minionofmidas]

LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.

Well, i think they were planning this map before they beat him in 2010

That's probably it.

[they don't love you like i love you]

It seems kind of silly to ever be concerned with him, just let him retire (it wouldn't have been long) and the seat would've been almost an automatic pickup.

[freepcrusher]

why did Skelton never run for higher office? He probably would have been a good candidate for Senate to replace Eagleton back in 86.

[krazen1211]

These idiots finally come to agreement.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/apr/27/redistricting-talks-resume-night-session/



Wonder if Nixon signs it with pressure from Cleaver.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Ze map:




MO-02 wouldn't be out of reach for a Democrat, I don't think (though it almost certainly voted McCain), but Carnahan is not the man to win that seat.

[krazen1211]

Ze map:




MO-02 wouldn't be out of reach for a Democrat, I don't think (though it almost certainly voted McCain), but Carnahan is not the man to win that seat.

Yep. You could get an ironclad 6-2 map by sticking either CD-3 or CD-8 into St. Louis County to pick up ~100k swing voters, and giving CD-2 all of St. Charles, but the Republican rurals would throw a fit.

[bloombergforpresident]

I can't tell which district I'm in (I'm on the borderline of two)!!

[JohnnyLongtorso]

VETO

[they don't love you like i love you]

Article also says they were 13 votes short of a veto-proof vote in the House.

[krazen1211]

Good; he's leaving time for an override. At least 1 St. Louis black Democrat has already committed to doing so.

First 4 to step up to the plate get to draw their own House district.

[minionofmidas]

If they draw their own district, it's not a veto override. It's a new map. I don't think there's time for that.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Yeah, the article seems to imply that they either override the veto or it goes to the courts.

[Brittain33]

VETO

Wow, none of the Pubbies noticed that Nixon is from Jefferson County before they carved it up into three pieces?! What did they expect?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

VETO

Wow, none of the Pubbies noticed that Nixon is from Jefferson County before they carved it up into three pieces?! What did they expect?

This is why I love redistricting.

[minionofmidas]

There were nine members absent on the final vote, and the plan got nine fewer votes than there are Republicans. Even though three Democrats voted for it. So there must be some Republicans opposed to the thing?

[krazen1211]

There were nine members absent on the final vote, and the plan got nine fewer votes than there are Republicans. Even though three Democrats voted for it. So there must be some Republicans opposed to the thing?

A few, in the random rural counties that got dumped into MO-05. They can probably wrangle those back, then you just need 1 or 2 more Democrats.


The 3 way Jefferson split though is quite stupid. You might as well remove MO-02 from it entirely.

[timothyinMD]

Partisan move by Nixon.  Of course the map favors Republicans-- Missouri is a Republican state.  We earned our 6-3 majority in the house delegation, and our huge majorities in the state legislature in Democrat drawn districts.  It's not the legislative Republicans' fault that 48% of the states Democrat voters are packed into just 3 jurisdictions.