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« Reply #150 on: October 17, 2011, 12:50:46 AM »
« edited: October 17, 2011, 08:22:37 AM by TommyC1776 »

Goldwater will have a Republican majority in the House and barely a Democratic majority in the Senate.  (This includes the Independent Senator Jacob Javits, who caucuses with the Democrats.)

On November 10th, Barry Goldwater resigns from the Senate to "get things together" for when he becomes President.  Therefore the Senate makeup is 56 Democrats, 42 Republicans, 1 Independent and 1 Vacant.
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« Reply #151 on: October 17, 2011, 06:01:52 AM »

Whoa! A Republican wins without Ohio?!
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« Reply #152 on: October 17, 2011, 09:49:58 PM »

Whoa! A Republican wins without Ohio?!

Thanks for pointing that out.
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« Reply #153 on: October 17, 2011, 10:33:22 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2011, 01:40:29 AM by TommyC1776 »

On November 14th the Mayor in the Philipines of the Zamboanga City (anti-Philipines government) is killed in the city.

5 days later CA Governor George Deukmejian appoints San Diego Mayor Pete Wilson to fill Barry Goldwater Jr's old seat in the Senate until a Special Election sometime next year.

The new tally in the U.S. Senate (until January 1985): 56 Democrats, 43 Republicans, 1 Independent.
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« Reply #154 on: October 19, 2011, 07:41:52 PM »

Speaker-Elect Robert Michel states "We will bring forward anti-gun control legislation in late January.  Our Constitution defends the right to bear arms."
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« Reply #155 on: October 19, 2011, 08:24:51 PM »

1) I noticed Reagan doesn't win with Ohio either in 1976.

2) Will we see Goldwater's cabinet, or at least the main people (Treasury, State, Defense, AG)?
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« Reply #156 on: October 19, 2011, 11:14:38 PM »

1) I noticed Reagan doesn't win with Ohio either in 1976.

2) Will we see Goldwater's cabinet, or at least the main people (Treasury, State, Defense, AG)?

Thanks for the comments and critiques.  Anyways, Goldwater is thinking about James Baker for Secretary of the Treasury, former Sec. of State in Reagan administration George Bush for Secretary of State, former Congressman Donald Rumsfeld for Secretary of Defense and Edwin Meese III for Attorney General.
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« Reply #157 on: October 19, 2011, 11:43:37 PM »

On January 3, 1985 the 99th Congress is inaugurated.  The Republicans now have control of the House while the Democrats maintain a slight majority in the Senate.  Speaker Michel states "Americans we've come to represent you in Washington.  The Kennedy administration has taken us on the wrong track and we're here now to put us on the right track.  Therefore in the next few weeks I'll propose we vote to repeal the gun control law and the healthcare overhaul.  Thank you and God Bless America."

On the Senate side Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker (who had decided to run in 1984 unlike RL) stated "The Republicans have 49 seats in the United States Senate and we will filibuster any liberal legislation brought forward by Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd.  I hope he allows for debate on the gun control issue as well as the healthcare issue too.  Thank you and God Bless America."
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« Reply #158 on: October 20, 2011, 03:14:36 AM »

I was really hoping for Carter with 2 terms. Can we still get him during the 90's maybe?
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« Reply #159 on: October 22, 2011, 02:35:31 PM »

I was really hoping for Carter with 2 terms. Can we still get him during the 90's maybe?

Carter?  You mean Kennedy?
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« Reply #160 on: October 24, 2011, 11:37:39 PM »

In the Senate Vice President sears in all the newly elected Senators.

On January 17th President Kennedy gives his farewell address: "Americans, over the last 4 years we've had many changes.  Some of them were not as popular as others were.  It's been interesting in serving as President of the United States as my brother did 20 some years ago.  Anyways, I'm glad you gave me a chance to serve and hope to serve the public some other way down the road.  Thank you and God Bless America."

On January 20th Barry Goldwater Jr. is sworn in as President of the United States.  "Americans, over the next 4 years I promise to have a government that lets you do what you want with your life compared to the previous administration.  I hope Congress will bring up repeals of the awful healthcare and gun control laws.  We also need to end this taxes that the Democrats passed a few years ago and go to a flat tax.  Having a flat tax is going to be better for the economy.  I hope you all can give me confidence over the next 4 years.  Thank you and God Bless America."
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« Reply #161 on: October 26, 2011, 12:02:07 AM »

On January 21st Speaker Robert Michel brings up the Anti-Gun Control Act of 1985 and it passes the House 250-185.  All Republicans vote for it as do 25 Democrats.

A few days later it is brought forward in the Senate.  A majority of the Democrats say their going to vote agains it while a few moderate Democrats will vote for it most likely giving it the "green light" to pass.

Former President Ted Kennedy states "If this legislation passes it will be a sad day for America."  Former President Ronald Reagan states "This is the best piece of legislation that I've seen in a long time."  The final Senate vote is 55-45.  6 Democrats vote for it.  The next day President Goldwater signs it and says "This is the best day for America as we get our 2nd Amendment rights back."

The next hurdle for the Republicans is pass legislation that would repeal the healthcare law.  However it may not make it to the President's desk as all 50 Democrats and Independent Senator Jacob Javits state they will vote againt it.
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« Reply #162 on: October 26, 2011, 12:17:25 AM »

The House brings up the Free Market Healthcare Act of 1985 and it passes 240-195.  In the Senate it fails 51-49 (only along party lines).  President Goldwater is upset about this and hopes he can repeal it in the next Congress.
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« Reply #163 on: October 26, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »

This is pretty much the outcome I was expecting: Repeal of gun control, but failure to repeal healthcare.
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« Reply #164 on: October 26, 2011, 10:52:27 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2011, 12:54:16 AM by TommyC1776 »

On June 17, 1985 the Discovery Channel begins broadcasting.

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In the CA Senate race current placeholder Senator Pete Wilson is defeated with 48% by former CA Senator John Tunney.  Tunney won 51% of the vote.  He will take his seat on August 15th.  This gives the Democrats 52 seats in the Senate.

A little over a month later it's announced that Christa McAullife (a teacher from NH) will become the first in her field to be on Challenger.

Then President Goldwater talks about having a balanced budget and to address the budget issue in 1986 when the old one stops after 3 years.  Goldwater proposes a budget that would last be able to last 10 years compared to Reagan's 5 year budget plan and Kennedy's 3 year budget plan.  The budget would cut military spending down a bit and cut some social programs as well in order to "get the economy rolling again."  We will see what the House and Senate come up with by 1986.
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« Reply #165 on: October 27, 2011, 12:39:09 AM »
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On August 15th John Tunney takes office as the newly elected Senator from the CA Special Election replacing placeholder Pete Wilson.

Speaker Michel brings up the Balanced Budget Act of 1986 in the fall of 1985.  This would have money spent more on the military compared to social programs including the Universal Healthcare Act of 1981.  The act would give people tax cuts if they get insurance from insurance companies rather than the government run program.  However Democrats feel this is a ploy to get Americans back to the "old ways" of healthcare for Americans.  The House passes it 230-205.

Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd brings up the Budget Management Reconciliation Act of 1986 around the same time.  This would have a majority of spending on social programs compared to military spending.  It also would fund the healthcare program by continuing to tax the rich like they did in the jobs bill passed in the Kennedy administration.  The Senate passes it 56-44 with 4 Republicans  (Charles Percy, John Chafee, Mark Hatfield, Warren Rudman) voting with all Democrats.
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« Reply #166 on: October 28, 2011, 09:40:49 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2011, 11:19:52 PM by TommyC1776 »

President Goldwater meets with Speaker Rober Michel, House Minority Leader Tip O'Neill, Senate Majority Robert Byrd and Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker to disccus a budget bill.  Goldwater proposes a debt ceiling bill that would cap the spending limit over the next 6 years.  The bill would put spending limits at $1.5 trillion for 6 years spending or not spending what you please within the limit.

The Government Budget Act of 1986 passes the House 280-155.  It passes the Senate 70-30.  President Goldwater signs it into law.
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« Reply #167 on: November 01, 2011, 10:09:02 PM »

In May 1986 the movie Top Gun comes out.



During the summer of 1986 President Goldwater campaigns hard for Republicans.  He hopes the Republicans can win the Senate and give the Republicans full control in Washington.
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« Reply #168 on: November 09, 2011, 01:07:09 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2011, 01:34:43 AM by TommyC1776 »

Former President Kennedy comes out to get support for Democrats.  "I feel that this administration isn't looking toward the middle class and is more concerned with the rich.  We need to elect more Democrats in Washington.  President Goldwater and his party are on the wrong track and we need to be on a better track."

President Goldwater states "I feel America's on a better track record than we've seen in awhile.  Therefore I hope the Republicans make gains and get control of the Senate.  If we gain 2 seats we got the Senate.  So go forward and make sure the Republicans are elected on Election Day."
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« Reply #169 on: November 09, 2011, 01:46:53 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2011, 11:51:28 PM by TommyC1776 »

1986 Midterms:
House: 245 Republicans, 190 Democrats
Senate: 53 Republicans, 47 Democrats

The Republicans won 20 seats in the House and 5 in the Senate.  Howard Baker will become Senate Majority Leader in the next Congress.  He tells Americans "Thanks for giving us a chance to govern as a majority in the Senate, now.  We appreciate that."

President Goldwater is happy with the numbers now and hopes he can get some of his legislation passed through the next Congress.

Current Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd states "We will stall legislation whenever we see fit just like the Republicans have done.  However we will work together when we can too."
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« Reply #170 on: November 09, 2011, 02:34:29 AM »
« Edited: November 11, 2011, 01:09:49 AM by TommyC1776 »

potential Democratic candidates, 1988:
Former President Ted Kennedy
Former Governor Jerry Brown
Former Senator and VP Lloyd Bentsen
Senator John Glenn
Reverend Jesse Jackson
Governor Bruce Babbit
Senator Al Gore

We will see who announces.
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« Reply #171 on: November 11, 2011, 12:02:45 AM »

There's speculation that getting rid of the Department of Education and the Department of Energy in the next Congress.  President Goldwater states "That's a fine idea by me."

In early December 1986 former President Kennedy announces he will not run for President but for the Senate in 1988.  "I know alot of you wanted me to run for President in 1988 but I decided that I could do more in the Senate right now."
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« Reply #172 on: November 11, 2011, 07:12:18 AM »

Who was Kennedy's replacement in the Senate?
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« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2011, 11:41:06 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2011, 11:49:52 PM by TommyC1776 »

Who was Kennedy's replacement in the Senate?

Former MA Governor Michael Dukakis replaced Ted Kennedy on January 30, 1981.  He was re-elected in 1982.  He said he will "bow out" so Kennedy can have the seat back.
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« Reply #174 on: December 05, 2011, 01:02:25 AM »

On January 3rd, 1987 the 100th Congress is inaugurated.  The Republicans now have control of both Houses of Congress.  The Democrats made a deal with Republicans as far as the healthcare law (as long as the Democrats don't filibuster alot of legislation there won't be a vote to repeal healthcare).  However the Department of Education and the Department of Energy will be brought up for repeal.  Senate Majority Leader Baker states "I feel both of these Departments should go as does the Speaker of the House and the President."

A few weeks later Reverend Jesse Jackson announces he will be a candidate for the Democratic nomination for President in 1988.  He states "Today I'm announcing my candidacy for President of the United States to represent the little people.  We need a President looking out for the poor and not the rich.  Also, the Republicans tried to repeal healthcare.  As far as the budget deal it would've been better had the Democratic version been put in place.  Now I'm off to campaign for you all.  Thank you and God Bless America."
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