"Marco Rubio is probably the most hyped of the 2011 freshman Senate class"

[ajc0918]

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/12/rubios-little-overrated.html

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HA.

[Eraserhead]

Almost identical favorables among Dems and Indies? It looks like another poll with some issues...

[SvenssonRS]

Looks like someone's still hurting that his neocon buddy Crist didn't get in...

(Disclaimer: Yeah, I know Rubio's not going anywhere near the White House for a long time. So please, don't try to use that against me.)

[DrScholl]

Overhyped is the word. It should not be forgotten that most of the electorate voted for someone else other than him, so approvals are not going to be over the top for him.

[ajc0918]

Looks like someone's still hurting that his neocon buddy Crist didn't get in...

Duhh?

[Sewer]

Looks like someone's still hurting that his neocon buddy Crist didn't get in...

Rubio is so antiwar

[Napoleon]

Crist did remind me a lot of Lieberman, phony Independent POS who deserved to lose. Democrats should be ashamed for not letting Meek getting his due justice, even if he would have likely lost in the end.

[Eraserhead]

Crist has absolutely nothing to do with neoconservatism.

[redcommander]

Looks like someone's still hurting that his neocon buddy Crist didn't get in...

Duhh?

Oh please Crist is a POS with no political principles. He lost for a reason, Americans like politicians to stick with their parties and not try to play moderate hero all the time, hence why Liberman's numbers are in the toilet. Spector and him lost their races for a good reason.

[Dgov]

A -31 Approval rating with Florida Independents?  The Same group he outright won in 2010?  Yeah, something doesn't feel right with this poll.

[Хahar 🤔]

Crist did remind me a lot of Lieberman, phony Independent POS who deserved to lose. Democrats should be ashamed for not letting Meek getting his due justice, even if he would have likely lost in the end.

If it were someone else, I would agree, but we're talking about Kendrick Meek here. He's a nepotist who had until 2010 never had a contested election.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Crist is the exact opposite of a neocon, he is a former conservative Republican that drifted left. And it's tough to judge a Governor's views on foreign policy.

[Torie]

Did Rubio get caught doing a dead boy or something since the election?

[ajc0918]

A -31 Approval rating with Florida Independents?  The Same group he outright won in 2010?  Yeah, something doesn't feel right with this poll.

Well Crist won 34% of independents, so assuming those 34% plus whatever percentage Meek got disapprove of Rubio then it's possible. Rubio won 48% of independents.

[SvenssonRS]

Crist is the exact opposite of a neocon, he is a former conservative Republican that drifted left. And it's tough to judge a Governor's views on foreign policy.

Doesn't change the fact that, at least if I recall correctly, he was seriously floated as a possible running mate for John McCain - one of the most shameless neocons alive.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I wonder, does Crist have any future?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Crist is the exact opposite of a neocon, he is a former conservative Republican that drifted left. And it's tough to judge a Governor's views on foreign policy.

Doesn't change the fact that, at least if I recall correctly, he was seriously floated as a possible running mate for John McCain - one of the most shameless neocons alive.

Hey, hey, wasn't Mark Hatfield seriously floated as Nixon running-mate? Zomgz, that makes Hatfield a Nixonian!

Not comparing the two, o/c, but this is utterly stupid argument, when you're lacking any real argument.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Crist is the exact opposite of a neocon, he is a former conservative Republican that drifted left. And it's tough to judge a Governor's views on foreign policy.

Doesn't change the fact that, at least if I recall correctly, he was seriously floated as a possible running mate for John McCain - one of the most shameless neocons alive.

Hey, hey, wasn't Mark Hatfield seriously floated as Nixon running-mate? Zomgz, that makes Hatfield a Nixonian!

Not comparing the two, o/c, but this is utterly stupid argument, when you're lacking any real argument.

Furthermore McCain is not a neocon. If you're going to define the term as "anyone who supports an imperialist foreign policy" there is nothing "neo" about it, was Genghis Kahn a neocon?

Also John Nance Garner was FDR's first running mate. One would have a tough time arguing that Garner, a hardcore isolationist Blue Dog had much in common with FDR. Is Sarah Palin a neocon for that matter?

[Torie]

I wonder, does Crist have any future?

No, except maybe in the Obama administration.

[DrScholl]

When Bill Young retires, FL-10 will have Charlie Crist's name on it. He's likable enough to win it as an independent.

[SvenssonRS]

Crist is the exact opposite of a neocon, he is a former conservative Republican that drifted left. And it's tough to judge a Governor's views on foreign policy.

Doesn't change the fact that, at least if I recall correctly, he was seriously floated as a possible running mate for John McCain - one of the most shameless neocons alive.

Hey, hey, wasn't Mark Hatfield seriously floated as Nixon running-mate? Zomgz, that makes Hatfield a Nixonian!

Not comparing the two, o/c, but this is utterly stupid argument, when you're lacking any real argument.

Furthermore McCain is not a neocon. If you're going to define the term as "anyone who supports an imperialist foreign policy" there is nothing "neo" about it, was Genghis Kahn a neocon?

Also John Nance Garner was FDR's first running mate. One would have a tough time arguing that Garner, a hardcore isolationist Blue Dog had much in common with FDR. Is Sarah Palin a neocon for that matter?

Was, or was not, George W. Bush a neocon?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No, he wasn't. Honestly the thought of George W. Bush as a member of any intellectual movement is beyond amusing. Neocons did have massive influence in his administration though, that being the problem. But Bush himself never signed on as a member of Project for a New American Century, nor did ever do any serious research into the writings of Strauss and Kristol.

[ajc0918]

When Bill Young retires, FL-10 will have Charlie Crist's name on it. He's likable enough to win it as an independent.

That or mayor of St. Petersburg (where he lives), a "non partisan" race.

[Nichlemn]

When Bill Young retires, FL-10 will have Charlie Crist's name on it. He's likable enough to win it as an independent.

This reminds me, has anyone broken down this race's results by Congressional district? I'd be interested in it.

[ajc0918]

When Bill Young retires, FL-10 will have Charlie Crist's name on it. He's likable enough to win it as an independent.

This reminds me, has anyone broken down this race's results by Congressional district? I'd be interested in it.

Well it would be neat to see the results, but what I can just estimate is it would probably have voted Crist by a few points over the overall Pinellas county win. You see the southern Pinellas tip a majority black area and is gerrymandered into FL-11, shockingly this area voted strongly for Meek. In the north of the county, some of the more conservative areas of the county are in FL-9. This area is pretty mixed but there are a lot of Rubio precints.

Here's a precinct by precinct map of the county if you wanna look.
http://www.tampabay.com/kyc2010/results/pinellas_map.shtml

Oh a random note: Crist won his home precinct with 60%.