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« Reply #75 on: February 09, 2011, 06:47:13 PM »

Eliminate:
4 for Morton
4 for Harriman
2 for Spitzer

Keep:
1 for DeWitt Clinton
1 for Cornell
1 for Pataki
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« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2011, 07:50:19 PM »

4 for Morton
4 for Harriman
2 for Paterson

Keep
1 for Pataki
1 for Spitzer
1 for Cornell
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« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2011, 03:11:09 AM »





George Clinton (D-R / 1777-1795, 1801-1804)
John Jay (F / 1795-1801)
Morgan Lewis (D-R / 1804-1807)
Daniel D. Tompkins (D-R / 1807-1817)
John Tayler (D-R / 1817)
DeWitt Clinton (D-R / 1817-1822, 1825-1828)
Joseph C. Yates (D-R / 1823-1824)
Nathaniel Pitcher (D-R / 1828)
Martin Van Buren (D / 1829)
Enos T. Throop (D / 1829-1832)
William L. Marcy (D / 1833-1838)
William H. Seward (W / 1839-1842)
William C. Bouck (D / 1843-1844)
Silas Wright (D / 1845-1846)
John Young (W / 1847-1848)
Hamilton Fish (W / 1849-1850)
Washington Hunt (W / 1851-1852)
Horatio Seymour (D / 1853-1854, 1863-1864)
Myron H. Clark (W / 1855-1856)
John Alsop King (R / 1857-1858)
Edwin D. Morgan (R / 1859-1862)
Reuben Fenton (R / 1865-1868)
John Thompson Hoffman (D / 1869-1872)
John Adams Dix (R / 1873-1874)
Samuel J. Tilden (D / 1875-1876)
Lucius Robinson (D / 1877-1879)
Alonzo B. Cornell (R / 1880-1882)
Grover Cleveland (D / 1883-1885)
David B. Hill (D / 1885-1891)
Roswell P. Flower (D / 1892-1894)
Levi P. Morton (R / 1895-1896)
Frank S. Black (R / 1897-1898)
Theodore Roosevelt (R / 1899-1900)
Benjamin Barker Odell Jr (R / 1901-1904)
Frank W. Higgins (R / 1905-1906)
Charles Evans Hughes (R / 1907-1910)
Horace White (R / 1910)
John Alden Dix (D / 1911-1912)
William Sulzer (D / 1913)
Martin H. Glynn (D / 1913-1914)
Charles S. Whitman (R / 1915-1918)
Al Smith (D / 1919-1920, 1923-1928)
Nathan Lewis Miller (R / 1921-1922)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (D / 1929-1932)
Herbert H. Lehman (D / 1933-1942)
Charles Poletti (D / 1942)
Thomas Dewey (R / 1943-1954)
W. Averell Harriman (D / 1955-1958)
Nelson Rockefeller (R / 1959-1973)
Malcolm Wilson (R / 1973-1974)
Hugh Carey (D / 1975-1982)
Mario Cuomo (D / 1983-1994)
George Pataki (R / 1995-2006)
Eliot Spitzer (D / 2007-2008)
David Paterson (D / 2008-2010)
Andrew Cuomo (D / 2011-…)

Results:
Round 1: Sulzer 16, Alden Dix 10, Marcy 7, George Clinton 4, Lewis 4, Seymour 4, Fenton 3, Tayler 3, Cornell 2, Glynn 2, White 2, DeWitt Clinton 1, Pitcher 1, Carey -1, Cleveland -1, F.D. Roosevelt -1, Tilden -1, Smith -1, Van Buren -1, Jay -4
Round 2: Tayler 12, Fenton 7, White 6, Lewis 5, Glynn 2, Pitcher 2, Poletti 2, Higgins 1, Hoffman 1, George Clinton -2, DeWitt Clinton -3, Van Buren -5
Round 3: Poletti 12, Glynn 6, Higgins 6, Pitcher 5, Lewis 3, Clark 2, Hoffman 2, Miller 1, Tompkins -1, Van Buren -1, DeWitt Clinton -2, George Clinton -2, Seymour -3
Round 4: Pitcher 9, Van Buren 7, Hoffman 5, Hunt 4, Bouck 3, Clark 3, Robinson 1, Lewis -2, Yates -3, invalid vote (Higgins) 1
Round 5: Bouck 14, Clark 14, Black 8, Wright 6, Hunt 3, Adams Dix 2, Miller 0, Tompkins -1, Lewis -2, Yates -2, Seymour -3, George Clinton -4
Round 6: Wright 10, Adams Dix 6, Fish 5, Miller 4, Flower 3, Hunt 2, King 1, Tompkins -3
Round 7: Flower 15, Miller 12, King 8, Hunt 7, Pataki 5, Hill 4, Young 2, Wilson 1, Paterson 0, Cornell -1, A. Cuomo -1, Dewey -1, Lewis -1, Seymour -1, Spitzer -1, Yates -1, G. Clinton -2, Seward -3
Round 8: Young 15, Hunt 14, Hill 2 (4 previous points), Odell 2 (0 previous point), T. Roosevelt 1, Whitman 1, Wilson 1, G. Clinton -1, Spitzer -2, Throop -2, Pataki -3
Round 9: Whitman 7, Odell 6, Throop 6, Lewis 2, Pataki 2, T. Roosevelt 1, G. Clinton -1, Smith -1, Tompkins -1
Round 10: Yates 16, Robinson 9, Wilson 6, Morgan 4, A. Cuomo 0, Pataki 0
Round 11: Morgan 14, A. Cuomo 8, Lewis 5, Cornell 4, Harriman 2, T. Roosevelt 2, Pataki 0, Paterson 0
Round 12: Morton 18, Harriman 10, Paterson 4, T. Roosevelt 3, Spitzer 1, Cornell 0, Pataki 0, D. Clinton -1


ROUND 13 IS OPEN !
In this round, you have 10 points to eliminate, to cast 7-2-1, and 3 points to keep, to cast 1-1.
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« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2011, 03:24:58 AM »

Based only on photos, I wouldn't have voted for Morgan and now Morton Cheesy.

I intended to vote for Harriman soon: fine he's already out.
Now, it's really difficult as we have eventually the "real" list of governors.

Eliminate
7 Seymour
2 DeWitt Clinton
1 Spitzer

Keep
2 Pataki
1 TR
(even though I'll cease to protect Theodore next round and hope I don't make a mistake by not giving a point to Cleveland or Tilden or George Clinton Grin)

From next round, we'll only eliminate 2 governors in each round.
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« Reply #79 on: February 10, 2011, 08:10:54 AM »

Eliminate

7 Cornell
2 Seward
1 G. Clinton

Keep

2 D. Clinton
1 Pataki
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« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2011, 01:41:01 PM »

Eliminate:

7  Teddy Roosevelt
2  Alonzo B. Cornell
1  George Pataki

Keep:

2  Horatio Seymour
1  DeWitt Clinton
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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2011, 03:48:32 PM »

Eliminate:
7 for Spitzer
2 for Seymour
1 for George Clinton

Keep:
2 for Cornell
1 for Theodore Roosevelt
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« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2011, 04:21:31 PM »

7 for Cornell
2 for George Clinton
1 for Spitzer

Keep
2 for Seymour
1 for Pataki
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« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2011, 03:24:58 AM »





George Clinton (D-R / 1777-1795, 1801-1804)
John Jay (F / 1795-1801)
Morgan Lewis (D-R / 1804-1807)
Daniel D. Tompkins (D-R / 1807-1817)
John Tayler (D-R / 1817)
DeWitt Clinton (D-R / 1817-1822, 1825-1828)
Joseph C. Yates (D-R / 1823-1824)
Nathaniel Pitcher (D-R / 1828)
Martin Van Buren (D / 1829)
Enos T. Throop (D / 1829-1832)
William L. Marcy (D / 1833-1838)
William H. Seward (W / 1839-1842)
William C. Bouck (D / 1843-1844)
Silas Wright (D / 1845-1846)
John Young (W / 1847-1848)
Hamilton Fish (W / 1849-1850)
Washington Hunt (W / 1851-1852)
Horatio Seymour (D / 1853-1854, 1863-1864)
Myron H. Clark (W / 1855-1856)
John Alsop King (R / 1857-1858)
Edwin D. Morgan (R / 1859-1862)
Reuben Fenton (R / 1865-1868)
John Thompson Hoffman (D / 1869-1872)
John Adams Dix (R / 1873-1874)
Samuel J. Tilden (D / 1875-1876)
Lucius Robinson (D / 1877-1879)
Alonzo B. Cornell (R / 1880-1882)
Grover Cleveland (D / 1883-1885)
David B. Hill (D / 1885-1891)
Roswell P. Flower (D / 1892-1894)
Levi P. Morton (R / 1895-1896)
Frank S. Black (R / 1897-1898)
Theodore Roosevelt (R / 1899-1900)
Benjamin Barker Odell Jr (R / 1901-1904)
Frank W. Higgins (R / 1905-1906)
Charles Evans Hughes (R / 1907-1910)
Horace White (R / 1910)
John Alden Dix (D / 1911-1912)
William Sulzer (D / 1913)
Martin H. Glynn (D / 1913-1914)
Charles S. Whitman (R / 1915-1918)
Al Smith (D / 1919-1920, 1923-1928)
Nathan Lewis Miller (R / 1921-1922)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (D / 1929-1932)
Herbert H. Lehman (D / 1933-1942)
Charles Poletti (D / 1942)
Thomas Dewey (R / 1943-1954)
W. Averell Harriman (D / 1955-1958)
Nelson Rockefeller (R / 1959-1973)
Malcolm Wilson (R / 1973-1974)
Hugh Carey (D / 1975-1982)
Mario Cuomo (D / 1983-1994)
George Pataki (R / 1995-2006)
Eliot Spitzer (D / 2007-2008)
David Paterson (D / 2008-2010)
Andrew Cuomo (D / 2011-…)

Results:
Round 1: Sulzer 16, Alden Dix 10, Marcy 7, George Clinton 4, Lewis 4, Seymour 4, Fenton 3, Tayler 3, Cornell 2, Glynn 2, White 2, DeWitt Clinton 1, Pitcher 1, Carey -1, Cleveland -1, F.D. Roosevelt -1, Tilden -1, Smith -1, Van Buren -1, Jay -4
Round 2: Tayler 12, Fenton 7, White 6, Lewis 5, Glynn 2, Pitcher 2, Poletti 2, Higgins 1, Hoffman 1, George Clinton -2, DeWitt Clinton -3, Van Buren -5
Round 3: Poletti 12, Glynn 6, Higgins 6, Pitcher 5, Lewis 3, Clark 2, Hoffman 2, Miller 1, Tompkins -1, Van Buren -1, DeWitt Clinton -2, George Clinton -2, Seymour -3
Round 4: Pitcher 9, Van Buren 7, Hoffman 5, Hunt 4, Bouck 3, Clark 3, Robinson 1, Lewis -2, Yates -3, invalid vote (Higgins) 1
Round 5: Bouck 14, Clark 14, Black 8, Wright 6, Hunt 3, Adams Dix 2, Miller 0, Tompkins -1, Lewis -2, Yates -2, Seymour -3, George Clinton -4
Round 6: Wright 10, Adams Dix 6, Fish 5, Miller 4, Flower 3, Hunt 2, King 1, Tompkins -3
Round 7: Flower 15, Miller 12, King 8, Hunt 7, Pataki 5, Hill 4, Young 2, Wilson 1, Paterson 0, Cornell -1, A. Cuomo -1, Dewey -1, Lewis -1, Seymour -1, Spitzer -1, Yates -1, G. Clinton -2, Seward -3
Round 8: Young 15, Hunt 14, Hill 2 (4 previous points), Odell 2 (0 previous point), T. Roosevelt 1, Whitman 1, Wilson 1, G. Clinton -1, Spitzer -2, Throop -2, Pataki -3
Round 9: Whitman 7, Odell 6, Throop 6, Lewis 2, Pataki 2, T. Roosevelt 1, G. Clinton -1, Smith -1, Tompkins -1
Round 10: Yates 16, Robinson 9, Wilson 6, Morgan 4, A. Cuomo 0, Pataki 0
Round 11: Morgan 14, A. Cuomo 8, Lewis 5, Cornell 4, Harriman 2, T. Roosevelt 2, Pataki 0, Paterson 0
Round 12: Morton 18, Harriman 10, Paterson 4, T. Roosevelt 3, Spitzer 1, Cornell 0, Pataki 0, D. Clinton -1
Round 13: Cornell 14, Spitzer 9, T. Roosevelt 5 (4 previous points), Seymour 5 (-3 previous points), G. Clinton 4, Seward 2, D. Clinton -1, Pataki -3


ROUND 14 IS OPEN !
In this round, you have 6 points to eliminate, to cast 3-2-1, and 2 points to keep, to cast 1-1. We'll eliminate 2 Governors.
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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2011, 03:38:03 AM »

We've got very different votes, this is now very intereting Smiley.

Eliminate
3 Seymour
2 DeWitt Clinton
1 Lehman

Keep
1 George Clinton
1 Pataki
(he'll be next after the 3 I currently want to eliminate Grin)
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« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2011, 05:00:47 AM »

We are not amused. Sad

Eliminate:
3 for DeWitt Clinton
2 for Seymour
1 for George Clinton

Keep:
Lehman and... um... Seward, I guess.
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« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2011, 05:15:34 AM »

Do you speak about the survivor itself (well, it's a bit more suspenseful since 2 rounds)
or about my void comments (which are of no great importance and are mostly here to break some monotony in couting points, inserting photos, updating posts, etc. Wink) ?
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« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2011, 08:23:01 AM »

The survivor wasn't that exciting for a long period when we had to sit through ten rounds of eliminating boring 19th century governors. Things are much more interesting now.

Elimination

3 Seward
2 Tilden
1 G. Clinton

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1 Pataki
1 D. Clinton

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« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2011, 01:13:43 PM »

I think that in the past month or so, the quality of survivors has been even better than usual Smiley

Eliminate
3 for George Clinton
2 for John Jay
1 for George Pataki

Keep
1 for DeWitt Clinton
1 for Horatio Seymour

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« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2011, 01:29:37 PM »

Eliminate:

3  George Pataki
2  Charles Evans Hughes
1  Samuel J. Tilden

Keep:

1  William H. Seward
1  DeWitt Clinton
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« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2011, 03:06:30 PM »

Do you speak about the survivor itself (well, it's a bit more suspenseful since 2 rounds)
or about my void comments (which are of no great importance and are mostly here to break some monotony in couting points, inserting photos, updating posts, etc. Wink) ?

I'm speaking about the results of the previous round.
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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2011, 04:44:09 AM »

Even me, I would have eventually dropped TR.
I like him very much (my favourite US presidential figure, in fact), but his term as governor was short. He was probably a good one but, now, the list has shortened and we've got very difficult choices.
It's a pity for him to have been ousted in a tie for the 3rd place just in the last round in which we eliminate 3 governors... Cry
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« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2011, 03:40:25 AM »




George Clinton (D-R / 1777-1795, 1801-1804)
John Jay (F / 1795-1801)
Morgan Lewis (D-R / 1804-1807)
Daniel D. Tompkins (D-R / 1807-1817)
John Tayler (D-R / 1817)
DeWitt Clinton (D-R / 1817-1822, 1825-1828)
Joseph C. Yates (D-R / 1823-1824)
Nathaniel Pitcher (D-R / 1828)
Martin Van Buren (D / 1829)
Enos T. Throop (D / 1829-1832)
William L. Marcy (D / 1833-1838)
William H. Seward (W / 1839-1842)
William C. Bouck (D / 1843-1844)
Silas Wright (D / 1845-1846)
John Young (W / 1847-1848)
Hamilton Fish (W / 1849-1850)
Washington Hunt (W / 1851-1852)
Horatio Seymour (D / 1853-1854, 1863-1864)
Myron H. Clark (W / 1855-1856)
John Alsop King (R / 1857-1858)
Edwin D. Morgan (R / 1859-1862)
Reuben Fenton (R / 1865-1868)
John Thompson Hoffman (D / 1869-1872)
John Adams Dix (R / 1873-1874)
Samuel J. Tilden (D / 1875-1876)
Lucius Robinson (D / 1877-1879)
Alonzo B. Cornell (R / 1880-1882)
Grover Cleveland (D / 1883-1885)
David B. Hill (D / 1885-1891)
Roswell P. Flower (D / 1892-1894)
Levi P. Morton (R / 1895-1896)
Frank S. Black (R / 1897-1898)
Theodore Roosevelt (R / 1899-1900)
Benjamin Barker Odell Jr (R / 1901-1904)
Frank W. Higgins (R / 1905-1906)
Charles Evans Hughes (R / 1907-1910)
Horace White (R / 1910)
John Alden Dix (D / 1911-1912)
William Sulzer (D / 1913)
Martin H. Glynn (D / 1913-1914)
Charles S. Whitman (R / 1915-1918)
Al Smith (D / 1919-1920, 1923-1928)
Nathan Lewis Miller (R / 1921-1922)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (D / 1929-1932)
Herbert H. Lehman (D / 1933-1942)
Charles Poletti (D / 1942)
Thomas Dewey (R / 1943-1954)
W. Averell Harriman (D / 1955-1958)
Nelson Rockefeller (R / 1959-1973)
Malcolm Wilson (R / 1973-1974)
Hugh Carey (D / 1975-1982)
Mario Cuomo (D / 1983-1994)
George Pataki (R / 1995-2006)
Eliot Spitzer (D / 2007-2008)
David Paterson (D / 2008-2010)
Andrew Cuomo (D / 2011-…)

Results:
Round 1: Sulzer 16, Alden Dix 10, Marcy 7, George Clinton 4, Lewis 4, Seymour 4, Fenton 3, Tayler 3, Cornell 2, Glynn 2, White 2, DeWitt Clinton 1, Pitcher 1, Carey -1, Cleveland -1, F.D. Roosevelt -1, Tilden -1, Smith -1, Van Buren -1, Jay -4
Round 2: Tayler 12, Fenton 7, White 6, Lewis 5, Glynn 2, Pitcher 2, Poletti 2, Higgins 1, Hoffman 1, George Clinton -2, DeWitt Clinton -3, Van Buren -5
Round 3: Poletti 12, Glynn 6, Higgins 6, Pitcher 5, Lewis 3, Clark 2, Hoffman 2, Miller 1, Tompkins -1, Van Buren -1, DeWitt Clinton -2, George Clinton -2, Seymour -3
Round 4: Pitcher 9, Van Buren 7, Hoffman 5, Hunt 4, Bouck 3, Clark 3, Robinson 1, Lewis -2, Yates -3, invalid vote (Higgins) 1
Round 5: Bouck 14, Clark 14, Black 8, Wright 6, Hunt 3, Adams Dix 2, Miller 0, Tompkins -1, Lewis -2, Yates -2, Seymour -3, George Clinton -4
Round 6: Wright 10, Adams Dix 6, Fish 5, Miller 4, Flower 3, Hunt 2, King 1, Tompkins -3
Round 7: Flower 15, Miller 12, King 8, Hunt 7, Pataki 5, Hill 4, Young 2, Wilson 1, Paterson 0, Cornell -1, A. Cuomo -1, Dewey -1, Lewis -1, Seymour -1, Spitzer -1, Yates -1, G. Clinton -2, Seward -3
Round 8: Young 15, Hunt 14, Hill 2 (4 previous points), Odell 2 (0 previous point), T. Roosevelt 1, Whitman 1, Wilson 1, G. Clinton -1, Spitzer -2, Throop -2, Pataki -3
Round 9: Whitman 7, Odell 6, Throop 6, Lewis 2, Pataki 2, T. Roosevelt 1, G. Clinton -1, Smith -1, Tompkins -1
Round 10: Yates 16, Robinson 9, Wilson 6, Morgan 4, A. Cuomo 0, Pataki 0
Round 11: Morgan 14, A. Cuomo 8, Lewis 5, Cornell 4, Harriman 2, T. Roosevelt 2, Pataki 0, Paterson 0
Round 12: Morton 18, Harriman 10, Paterson 4, T. Roosevelt 3, Spitzer 1, Cornell 0, Pataki 0, D. Clinton -1
Round 13: Cornell 14, Spitzer 9, T. Roosevelt 5 (4 previous points), Seymour 5 (-3 previous points), G. Clinton 4, Seward 2, D. Clinton -1, Pataki -3
Round 14: G. Clinton 4, Seymour 4, Tilden 3, D. Clinton 2, Hughes 2, Jay 2, Pataki 2, Seward 2, Lehman 1


ROUND 15 IS OPEN !
In this round, you have 6 points to eliminate, to cast 2-2-2, and 2 points to keep, to cast 1-1. We'll eliminate 2 Governors.
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« Reply #93 on: February 14, 2011, 04:47:07 AM »

Well, I guess it's a good result for George Clinton, given its points in the very first round.
Still, I'd have seen him go on a little longer.

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2 DeWitt Clinton
2 Tilden
2 Lehman

Keep
1 Pataki (for the last time: it'll be too dangerous after that Wink)
1 Hughes
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« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2011, 07:59:16 AM »

Eliminate

2 Seward
2 Pataki
2 Hughes

Keep

1 D. Clinton
1 Tompkins
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« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2011, 12:28:40 PM »

Eliminate
2 for George Pataki
2 for John Jay
2 for Samuel Tilden

keep
1 for Herbert H. Lehman
1 for William H. Seward
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« Reply #96 on: February 14, 2011, 01:33:19 PM »

Eliminate:
2  George Pataki
2  Thomas Dewey
2  Nelson Rockefeller

Keep:
1  Samuel Tilden
1  DeWitt Clinton


You are quite Clever, fab Wink Your voting-rules are every round so, that your favourites have a very good chance for the next round Grin
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« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2011, 01:38:54 PM »

He probably figured that Pataki would be gone if the voting were something like 3-2-1 Tongue Grin
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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2011, 04:34:09 PM »

Let me be clear (not especially for you, Hans & Edu, I think you know I'm "clean", but more for some forumers less accustomed with our lil' world): I set the rules BEFORE the survivor begins and I don't change them !

Sometimes, it can be good for my favourites, but I have many examples in which I "lose" because of my own rules... (in the Asian countries, it was mixed, first not so bad, then terrible; maybe French cities, I don't remember, but we can search in old survivors, and there are many examples).

I put my rules in magnificent xls files Wink and I"re-discover" them when I update the survivor in each round, so that I don't vote in my own survivors with the knowledge of next round's rule.

And you've noticed that my rules are quite homogeneous, so that every knows, from the first round or the first in a series of rounds, that we'll have eliminate + keep, or only eliminate, etc.
But, in the same pattern, each round is different: 3-2-1, 4-1-1, 2-2-2, etc.

I try to make things so that everyone is as much on par with me as it is possible.

Of course, you are allowed not ot believe me Wink.
But what would be the interest and the fun to "win" after having cheated ?!?
I'm 40 years old (Tongue) and I'm not Libertas Grin...

The only time I've stuffed the ballot is now survivors' History Grin (and it was after hughento's green light !).



But now, if Dewey AND Rockefeller are both threatened, it would be outrageous (what would you say if Braun was already Cheesy), maybe I should "do" something Grin
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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2011, 04:40:16 PM »

Eh, i can't speak for Hans but i was joking Tongue
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