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MarkWarner08
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« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2008, 01:54:20 PM »

1. I'm pro-school choice
2. I support free trade
3. I support eliminating the corporate income tax
4. I support income-based affirmative action
5. I'm pro-nuclear power
6. I oppose corporate welfare
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« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2008, 01:58:18 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2008, 04:03:41 PM by Cassidy »

Free Trade - Generally anti-tariffs and pro-open markets. However, I support reforming NAFTA and subsidies for industries like steel.
Business Tax Cuts - Big proponent of this.
Balanced Budget - Discretionary spending and tax deductions are out of control. We need a Balanced Budget Amendment and/or other serious reforms.
Social Security - Needs to be scaled back. We phase it out for most and encourage private savings.
Regulation - Very Cynical in this area. I tend to view regulations as nonsensical and biased against small business. Large corporations have the resources to ignore or challenge even basic ones.
Education - For some vouchers; charter schools. For school uniforms and bringing back discipline. Very hostile to what I view as bureaucracy (e.g. No Child Left Behind; Department of Education).
Minimum Wage - Against. It's ineffective and often has unintended consequences.
Gun Control - Generally against, especially at the federal level.
Affirmative Action - Should not be race based because that's unconstitutional.
Faith Based Charities - Okay with allowing regulated use of funds.
Immigration - Against amnesty/'earned citizenship'; guest worker programs. I'm not so sure about current immigration levels either.
Environment - For ANWR and off-shore drilling, very pro-Nuclear Power, against arbitrary emissions caps, concerned about over-regulation.
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« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2008, 04:45:18 PM »

I don't particularly like Change, I just dislike Hierarchial Snobbery and Smugness even more.
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« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2008, 05:49:44 PM »

Liberal
1 I favor UHC on the swiss model.
2  I support the age of consent being lowered to 12 or so
3 I believe in abolishing the pledge of alleigance.
4 I believe in abolishing all government grants to faith based programs
5 I believe in legalizing all drugs

Conservative
1 I oppose every regulation on gun ownership passed since the national firearm act got passed sometime in the 30s
2 I oppose any form of restrictions on purchase and use of tobacco.
3 I believe in annexing Mexico and turning it into 25 or so states. Mexicans make good americans so the choice is obvious.
4 I oppose immigration to the US whether it's temporary or permanent. We have enough people as is already so why further strain the environment.
5 I believe in western culture being desirable, and it should be promoted.
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MarkWarner08
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« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2008, 06:20:23 PM »

I support universal health coverage.
I support "gay rights".
I oppose excessive military spending and activity.
I support "amnesty" for illegals.
I support drug legalization.

I'm also very pleased to see the attention corporate taxation is receiving from the other side of the aisle. Smiley
Yeah. I'm a corporate suck-up.  As I've said before, I might be the only person in America who supports eliminating the corporate income tax and the cap on payroll taxes.
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« Reply #180 on: July 25, 2008, 06:27:35 PM »

I support the Death Penalty
I support Nuclear Power (though I don't see this as a dem vs rep thing)
I support NAFTA and free trade
I am against drug legalization (for example: pot)
For the most part I liked Bush's immigration plan that was shot down
I don't support bio-deisel (I don't think it adresses evironmental concerns.)

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« Reply #181 on: July 25, 2008, 06:37:58 PM »

I support the Death Penalty
I support Nuclear Power (though I don't see this as a dem vs rep thing)
I support NAFTA and free trade
I am against drug legalization (for example: pot)
For the most part I liked Bush's immigration plan that was shot down
I don't support bio-deisel (I don't think it adresses evironmental concerns.)


Me too. That used to be a conservative position. But now the FOX News conservatives are all nativists, so I guess that more of a "liberal" position.
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« Reply #182 on: July 25, 2008, 06:42:52 PM »

I support the Death Penalty
I support Nuclear Power (though I don't see this as a dem vs rep thing)
I support NAFTA and free trade
I am against drug legalization (for example: pot)
For the most part I liked Bush's immigration plan that was shot down
I don't support bio-deisel (I don't think it adresses evironmental concerns.)


Me too. That used to be a conservative position. But now the FOX News conservatives are all nativists, so I guess that more of a "liberal" position.

It was sad to see it taken down so quickly from all sides, especially because it was probably one of the two or three things I liked about the Bush administration.
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« Reply #183 on: July 25, 2008, 08:04:03 PM »

I consider myself a pragmatic conservative since I want a balanced budget, a non-interventionist foreign policy and to stop social engineering.
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« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2008, 11:34:00 AM »

I am for an high military spending.
I am against drug legalisation.
I am against affirmative action. You should be selected because of your abilities. That is inverted racism.
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« Reply #185 on: July 26, 2008, 11:48:10 AM »

It was sad to see it taken down so quickly from all sides, especially because it was probably one of the two or three things I liked about the Bush administration.

Don't be fooled.  The McCain/Bush/Kennedy immigration plan was pro-business, not pro-immigrant.
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« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2008, 11:58:45 AM »

I support universal health coverage.
I support "gay rights".
I oppose excessive military spending and activity.
I support "amnesty" for illegals.
I support drug legalization.


Wow! You were right after all! I now know for sure who the real conservative is!
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« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2008, 12:35:43 PM »

Pro-choice
Pro-stem cell research
Pro-civil unions (but don't call call it marriage)
Pro-gun control (just background checks)
Legalization of prostitution, assisted suicide (if you want to kill yourself go right ahead)
More funding for education (although I think we need to return controls of the schools to the states and counties, not the federal government.

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« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2008, 03:15:09 PM »

Oppose Affirmative Action
Favor Death Penalty

I have some purely moderate stances that could go either way:

Believe in free trade in economic principle, but not always practice.
Favor welfare reform
Taxes-  Should be raised temporarily, but make severe budget cuts to pay down debt then reduce taxes.  I don't believe anyone should have to pay mroe than 50% of their income in taxes.
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« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2008, 04:23:50 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2008, 04:25:47 PM by Cassidy »

In case anyone thinks I'm completely a DINO I'm also pro-Choice, pro-gay rights (marriage included), anti-War on Drugs, anti-death penalty, pro-universal health-care, oppose the Bush tax cuts, support expanding EITC, pro-Trade Assistance, opposed Bush's SS privatization plan, support Net Neutrality, support Clean Election laws, oppose the Iraq War, oppose any military action in Iran, think the military budget is bloated, and very cautious about supporting Israel (to the left of most Dems).

And of course some of my prior positions on issues like Trade could actually go either way.
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« Reply #190 on: July 26, 2008, 04:33:38 PM »

Legalizing drugs, gambling, prostitution
Opposition to nation building

Basically I'm old school conservative rather than a neo-con
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« Reply #191 on: July 26, 2008, 09:14:55 PM »

I support universal health coverage.
I support "gay rights".
I oppose excessive military spending and activity.
I support "amnesty" for illegals.
I support drug legalization.
Wow! You were right after all! I now know for sure who the real conservative is!

Like I said, if you want to lay claim to the sickening version of "conservative" we all know and hate today, be my guest.  As for the real real conservative, I'm right here.

You're right..all those conservative European countries were flagships for Universal Health Care.
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« Reply #192 on: July 27, 2008, 01:38:18 AM »
« Edited: July 27, 2008, 01:54:18 AM by Mr.GameAndWatch »

I support bi-partisan measures to-

* Support the Heller v. D.C. decision
* Support the "Castle Doctrine"
* Support increasing the minimium of the Estate Tax to $10,000,000.00 net worth.
* Support the United States' role as a global leader (initially supported the Iraq war)
* Support restrictions on Eminent Domain and Stringent Zoning Codes in low-density areas
* Oppose restrictions on Tobbaco products and use
* Oppose Universal Health Care measures that mandate insurance ownership
* Support the addition of tissues for donation into the market once a reliable source for  organs and tissues for transplants are found

However, I am morally disgusted by these Republican programs, suggestions and supported practices-

* The support Civil Immunity for Medical Torts (In some of these cases, you have to be evil to let those responsible off the hook)
* The continued support for Insurance Company Client Dumping or Refusal
* The support for the prosecutions of abortions in the first trimester when the woman involved cannot carry the pregnancy to term  without the cause of a permanent disability to the fetus or woman involved.
* The continued support Extrajudicial Punishment and Searches
* The support for Execution of non-Homicidal offenders
* The continued violent persecution of Non-Violent soft drug users
* The continued opposition to supporting Stem Cell Research
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« Reply #193 on: July 27, 2008, 02:03:56 AM »

Pro-Choice
Pro-Stem Cell Research
Pro-Civil Unions
Legalization of prostitution, assisted suicide.
I support a bare minimum "safety net".
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« Reply #194 on: July 27, 2008, 08:18:32 AM »

I support removing trade tariffs on other countries.
I oppose restrictions on tobacco products and use.  (Other than an age limit)
I oppose public financing of campaigns and am wary of campaign finance reform in general (free speech concerns).
I oppose social engineering taxes (excise taxes on legal products deemed sinful or harmful).
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« Reply #195 on: July 27, 2008, 11:22:59 AM »
« Edited: July 27, 2008, 02:40:04 PM by Torie »

Pro legalized gay marriage
Pro the ponzi social security scheme
guns should be regulated
pro land use controls
Support public financing of campaigns in the sense that if one candidate spends over a limit, the other guy gets funds.
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« Reply #196 on: July 31, 2008, 08:01:31 PM »

I'm generally opposed to eminent domain (though I realize it is necessary in some cases).
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« Reply #197 on: July 31, 2008, 09:58:49 PM »

I oppose restrictions on tobacco products and use.  (Other than an age limit)
Why is that a conservative position in your opinion?
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« Reply #198 on: July 31, 2008, 10:01:45 PM »

I oppose restrictions on tobacco products and use.  (Other than an age limit)
Why is that a conservative position in your opinion?

He's so far left that to him that is conservative.
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« Reply #199 on: July 31, 2008, 10:22:31 PM »

     I support gay marriage, universal health care, & legalization of most drugs. I'm not very conservative, though I usually take moderate to right-wing stances outside of those issues.
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