Pacific Supreme Council Thread

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Come to think of things, we need to figure out who's up for re-election this month.  We know Fuzzy got in unscathed, and we know Xahar is up.  So are they any volunteers between realistic and Jbrase?

[RI]

Will we actually have a situation where someone could lose this time?

[Oakvale]

I'd actually run if I wasn't partaking in the other campaign.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Will we actually have a situation where someone could lose this time?

I might end up running just for the sake of it.

[CatoMinor]

Can we begin debate on my bill? (I am assuming fuzzy's is withdrawn due to federal law)

[RI]

Can we begin debate on my bill? (I am assuming fuzzy's is withdrawn do to federal law)

I'll support your bill, fyi.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

At Jbrase's request, debate will now begin on the Re-Naming Act, set to end on Friday, 7 PM.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Can we begin debate on my bill? (I am assuming fuzzy's is withdrawn do to federal law)

I'll support your bill, fyi.

[CatoMinor]

Ok, It appears to have at least 3 aye votes, I motion to move this to a vote and perhaps with some divine intervention the  Assemblée de Extrémistes will pass this bill.

[RI]

I'm going to introduce this bill. Feel free to offer amendments to it.

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[RI]

And another bill:

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[Citizen (The) Doctor]

The Re-Naming Act will now be open for a vote.  Debate on realistic's bill will begin tomorrow, at 6 PM PST after the vote.

[RI]

Re-Naming Act: Aye

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Re-Naming Act: Aye

[CatoMinor]

Re-Naming Act: Aye

[CatoMinor]

On a side note, I would ask all my colleagues to re-consider their aye's on the current amendment being voted on by the region. It may look nice and pretty but it nevertheless weakens the Regions. I know 2/3 is alot but regardless, we can't allow amendments to go around regions like this. Sure the current set up is kinda strict, but think about it, this forces those who write the amendments to work with all sides to make it a more agreeable amendment so that it can pass in at least 4 regions.

That said I ask that you all reconsider your votes.

[bgwah]

Can we begin debate on my bill? (I am assuming fuzzy's is withdrawn do to federal law)

I'll support your bill, fyi.

Didn't you support the renaming just a few months ago?

[RI]

Can we begin debate on my bill? (I am assuming fuzzy's is withdrawn do to federal law)

I'll support your bill, fyi.

Didn't you support the renaming just a few months ago?

Maybe...

(I really don't care about renaming. It's all sort of fun and games to do so, but if you really think about it, it wouldn't be a very nice thing to do in real life to a community. Meh.)

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I'm going to introduce this bill. Feel free to offer amendments to it.

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Do we have a cost projection for that? 

[RI]

Do we have a cost projection for that?  

Oh, it'll certainly be expensive, but the idea is that if it works, it'll return many times on the investment in the form of economic growth.

I'm sure it would be fascinating to try to calculate. We might want to amend it to cap the value of the vouchers, though, otherwise people could use them to buy the most expensive car they can...hmm.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Do we have a cost projection for that? 

Oh, it'll certainly be expensive, but the idea is that if it works, it'll return many times on the investment in the form of economic growth.

True, and our environment is taking a beating. 

[CatoMinor]

I love the idea of cleaner but this just goes too far. Forcing people to buy new energy efficient cars and if they refuse they will lose their car and have it destroyed? I know the heart is in the right place but this bill is way too authoritarian.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I love the idea of cleaner but this just goes too far. Forcing people to buy new energy efficient cars and if they refuse they will lose their car and have it destroyed? I know the heart is in the right place but this bill is way too authoritarian.

Only if they drive the car without a permit, it gets destroyed.  Plus, they don't have to get a new car, they can spend their voucher however they please.  But most likely they will use it to get a new and cleaner vehicle, since most others will be banned from use.

[RI]

Look, I know it sounds extreme, but I'm frankly a bit sick and tired of waiting around for change to come on this issue. I know you're not going to like it Jbrase; I knew that when I wrote it.

I'm open to amendments if there's something that can be improved, but the 'mandate', you might say, is there for a reason.

The way that I see it, by effectively replacing almost all of the gasoline-powered vehicles on the road, and by paying for a good portion of the transition, we would be creating a massive economic stimulus that would go to car companies, a massive stimulus that would go to each and every car owner because, after the initial payment, they would never have to buy gasoline again. If they have a hydrogen car, they would almost essentially get a home fueling station, meaning that the price of their fuel would be no more than the price of their monthly water bill. This will also create increase aggregate supply because it will remove high fuel costs for companies who need to ship things within the region. We are doing all of these things in the least costly manner to individuals that we can, and in the most economically correct way that you can (for government intervention).

[CatoMinor]

Just prepare for a massive hit in tourism. the people in the Midwest and IDS will not purchess to visit our region.