Pacific Supreme Council Thread

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Welcome, one and all to the Pacific Supreme Council!

As the current Lt. Governor, I will be serving as the Leader of the Council, a sort of President Pro Tempore if you will.  It is my responsibility to facilitate debate, votes, and break ties.

So yes, as our first act, I believe we should start creating a Council Rulebook, so we have set procedures for all debates, votes, and other council business.

Sadly, I cannot work on such a task alone for the time being mainly because I'm extremely busy this week, so let us begin brainstorming!

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I don't think we need set rules. The Mideast Assembly worked well for a long time without them.

Well, that is true.  But I just think we should have some sort of guideline so we don't have any issues later on.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Well I started the thread on time, didn't I?

Anyway, the process according to the law should be something like this:

Law proposed -> Debate for a day or two -> Vote -> Send it to the People's Assembly for a final vote.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

So yes....who wants to propose the landmark first law?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

So yes....who wants to propose the landmark first law?

The debate rules you mentioned sound good. 

Well if you guys want to debate whether or not the guidelines should be passed as a law, I won't stop you.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Okay, here's a draft:

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With Fuzzy's bill, I don't think there are any objections to putting this to a vote.  Voting will be open for a 48 hour period since it's simply procedural rules.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Technically the bill has already passed, but I think we should wait for Xahar's vote so the guidelines can't be disputed.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

And the last vote.......

He has three hours.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

The vote is closed on the Council Guidelines, a vote of 3 ayes, 0 nays, and 1 abstention.  The floor is now open to proposing new legislation.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I will give 24 hours for any other legislation to be proposed, then open up debate.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Debate is now open on the Taxation of Marijuana Act.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I will call a vote on Fuzzy's bill tonight and continue debate on realistic's bills.  I'll wait till Monday to call a vote on that.  The vote for Fuzzy's bill will beging approximately at 7 PM tonight and end on Sunday at 7 PM (I won't be here on Saturday).

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Btw, debate may continue on Realistic's proposed group of bills.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Sorry if this is a bit late, I was swamped with work when I got back home.

The Taxation of Drugs and Alcohol Beverages Act has passed with a 3-1 majority.

Thanks to realistic for submitting the bill to the People's Assembly in my absence.  Debate on Realistic's bills will continue to tomorrow night at 7 PM, when I will call a 72-hour vote.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

The vote is open on both of realistic's bills.  If you wish you amend the bills, let them fail here and then reintroduce them with the amended info.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Partial-Birth Abortion Act has passed 4-0
The Taxation of Prostitiution Act has passed 3-1
The Amendment to the Public Funding of Abortion Act has passed 3-1

x ArchangelZero

The floor is now open to new bills.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

On a side-note, I'm starting to find the tandem of the Council passing things and the Assembly voting them down very interesting.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

On a side-note, I'm starting to find the tandem of the Council passing things and the Assembly voting them down very interesting.

The problem is that there are only 3 people voting in the Assembly. If you councilors could vote (which would be logicals since you are citizens), the bills would pass.

But that kind of kills the idea of one person, one vote, doesn't it?  We need to push for more active citizen involvement in the Assembly.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

On a side-note, I'm starting to find the tandem of the Council passing things and the Assembly voting them down very interesting.

The problem is that there are only 3 people voting in the Assembly. If you councilors could vote (which would be logicals since you are citizens), the bills would pass.

But that kind of kills the idea of one person, one vote, doesn't it?  We need to push for more active citizen involvement in the Assembly.

Each person has one vote in the Assembly, so I don't see where is the problem. In every country, Representatives or other legislators have the right to vote for referendums that involve the whole people.

It is however, in technicality, a bicarmeal legislature.  And the bill states that one man, one vote through the whole process, which is a very democratic way of doing it.
 
Personally, I find this tandem to be good for the region as for the first time in months, we are actually having active debate regarding bills.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

On a side-note, I'm starting to find the tandem of the Council passing things and the Assembly voting them down very interesting.

The problem is that there are only 3 people voting in the Assembly. If you councilors could vote (which would be logicals since you are citizens), the bills would pass.

But that kind of kills the idea of one person, one vote, doesn't it?  We need to push for more active citizen involvement in the Assembly.

Each person has one vote in the Assembly, so I don't see where is the problem. In every country, Representatives or other legislators have the right to vote for referendums that involve the whole people.

It is however, in technicality, a bicarmeal legislature.  And the bill states that one man, one vote through the whole process, which is a very democratic way of doing it.
 
Personally, I find this tandem to be good for the region as for the first time in months, we are actually having active debate regarding bills.

Still, considering the level of inactivity in our region, this leaves two or three people the possibility to block any legislative proposal. There were more votes cast in the restricted, elected house than in the universal, illimited one.

Of course, won't that require cooperation between both chambers?  I'll discuss the idea with Oakvale, and we'll see what will happen.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Debate is now open on the Happy Fun Progressive Act.  Voting will commence on Tuesday, 10 PM.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

btw, can the Lt. Gov vote in the Assembly?

Actually, I have no idea.  I didn't really think about that....though I do know that I can only vote here in the case of a tie breaker.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

To clarify, do you seriously want debate opened on those bills Fuzzy?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I think it's fairly clear that the Council is well to the right of the region in general, although I'm not sure why that's the case.

Which only means that both houses have to learn how to compromise (*shudder at the thought* )

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I'll give 24 hours for any other bills to be proposed before I start debate.  If this doesn't get through the Assembly I will eat my hat.