MA: Freedom to Consume Alchol in Public Bill (Debating)

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I'm against this. I understand why people may think it's fine to consume alcohol when they aren't driving or anything, but these drunk people ARE going to effect others in mass transit and will not only discourage mass transit usage all around and specifically at night (which is something terrible to do for urban areas in bad parts of towns) but it is a safety hazards to those around those consuming, who just are minding their own business.

I understand how this would promote people to take the train or bus instead of driving, but even without this law they can still do that. Drinking in mass transit, encouraging drunks to use it, I'm against. I don't want this to hurt other people using mass transit. If everyone was responsible then ya sure, I'd support this, but the fact is there's dumb people out there.

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I would consider voting for the bill without the public intoxication portion...however I am still very concerned with the well being of others on the mass transit and if nobody can come up with a good persuasion why that will be safe, I will vote Nay.

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If nobody minds, I'll bring forward the amendment tomorrow since it's obvious everyone in the Assembly doesn't want the public intoxication wording in there and from there we can continue to discuss the bill.

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Voting is now open on the following amendment. Voting will last for 24 hour or until every Assemblymember has voted. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

The bill shall now read the following:

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Aye

(btw voting will probably close a little short of 24 hours tomorrow since I'll be gone for most the night and have a small window from like 3:30-4:15 to do many things)

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Sorry to cut this short, but I warned ya

The amendment has passed

Aye-3
Nay-0
Abstain-0

Not Voting- True Conservative (the author of the amendment ), Junkie

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I'm still not convinced of why this is a good idea, and as of now, plan on voting NAY.  If anybody so chooses, I'm open to hearing why I should vote AYE.

When homeless people drinks, they get arrested, and later released. This is a complete waste of our time and resources, as arresting them doesn't really solve the problem. Now, if that drunken man decided to enter a building, he'd still be arrested under this law. A man drinking is not a risk to the public, so I see no reason in making it illegal.

That is soooo dangerously untrue. If that were the case, everyone would be allowed to drink.

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The mere state of intoxication shouldn't necessarily be a problem either.

Until they endager those around them with amplified emotions and rash action. This isn't even a party we're talking about or some sort of gathering. This is drinking on a light rail where there are others to think of.

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It's funny, but I don't hear about too many drunk people falling onto the rails or being pushed onto them in Germany...

Is Atlasia/America that bad at handling alcohol?

Yes, just look at the at the general safety of the Autobahnen

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It's funny, but I don't hear about too many drunk people falling onto the rails or being pushed onto them in Germany...

Is Atlasia/America that bad at handling alcohol?

Yes, just look at the at the general safety of the Autobahnen

Exactly. Though I'm not sure how the fact that the Autobahn is one of the safest road systems in the world ties into this.

I think his point was that Americans are less responsible.

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They don't drink an drive, they don't eat and drive, they don't talk on their phones and drive (well I can't speak for EVERY person)